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I will also take 13-384 i will send you a pm making things clear ok.

Sand an lime fine in the summer not so good winter the reason being job getting dry sand thats what i find.

Thats fine i will send pm the morn ok .

Why did i think it was 10-30 that bidding closed, dam that! did i get the cock 12-793.

My bid 07-217 =£45

Used to pair boxing day when last had doos keeping things simple as poss will let them run the gether begining of March and see what i get .One or two pairs I will put together but thats all.

Cold but dry bright but no sun as yet windy last night .Sun now broken through 10.40am

Good looking doo as well.

Frosty and dry here

No i suppose you are right but oh well,its good to think the old strains are still in the hands of someone who cares about old breeds even though we might be kidding ourselves.

Are your birds mainly pure or do you cross them all?

My bid = 12-793 and 11- 652 and 07- 217 £30 each

If i should choose to bid are we bidding on the ring number or ,does the lots go from left to right down .

A dull dour day here rain nae far awa.

This is exactly what is wrong with this sport at club level the so called top men are to ready to critisise the guy you lads say knows f--all and flys worse he probably has read a lot, has terrific knowledge of various systems just because he has tried to improve his positions in the races he is competing in ,it is just that it hasnt worked out for them ,but if it wasnt for them the good flyers would have little honour.And when i think of it at least we are willing to talk and to try and help and yes thats me included the useless guys that want to help even though we cant fly a kite.

Recording returns i think is a no hoper if you ask some of the club members they drop very few but they still breed 60 the next year.

Is anyone going to name this product that is sure to work i need all the help i can get !

Probably no chance but that i would think is what the site is all about [talk] discusion ,air views, even though its sometimes pointless .

98x£25 37x£20 4x£10 = 139 FED members and in our club 15 members .

I have just come back to this game and yes ,63 disabled with bad health but i took the birds back to keep me sane and what i have found as regards premotion of our hobby has not improved in the 10 years that i have been away your ordinary lad on the street knows nothing as regards what goes on in fact a lot of them think they fly to the race point ,they dont know the orginisation that is going on week in week out,so what i say is lobby papers ,magazines get the media on our side, oh and let new members in for nothing pay their fees,and dont throw them out if they start winning.And by the way i will be racing 2year old and yearlings trained but never raced so i will report back on doing away with young bird racing but i have a feeling that it will be :crying:

Up here we are £25to the Fed £15 for SHU ,for the club its £25 membership The birdage old and young is 35p longer races 50p and two longest races 60p per pigeon ,just thought it would be interesting to hear from others.

As a matter interest how much do members pay for fed & club dues and rings etc the reason i ask is because the money prizes farer south appear to be far greater than what is flown for up here and i just wondered where the money was generated, is it because of the larger orginisations ,or the price you pay for birdage ,fees or what ,enlighten me .

Keep the heid lads just brought up this to get fowks thoughts nae to start a war of words .

JOHNSEE I am of the same opinion as you there are as much different potions now a days ,who knows what is in them the way things are with losses and different sickness maybe the birds are being dosed with health damageing chemicals and fanciers dont know it already.

What i mean is the likes of steroids in one form or another could be used to put on muscle prior to a race not that I am saying they are ,I just think if the use of drugs are common place on the Belgium dutch etc scene then somebody will or has used them here.