Novice

Are they vaccinated against PMV?

There is a wealth of information available on the met office site to help people understand weather. There is a section explaining thunderstorms and how the water droplets rising within a thunder cloud form ice which can fall as hail. It also explains how the base of the cloud becomes negatively charged. This is accompanied by a chart showing the incidence if thunderstorms by location. The highest frequency is in the SE of England especially during the summer months. Yet, we take our birds as Far East as possible. There is very little logic in that as far as I can see. Unless I am mistaken the birds arrived at Reims on Thursday when the ambient temperature was around 30 degrees. Goodness knows what it was inside the baskets.

Wee Paddy also said something very relevant concerning now flying 582 miles for the gold cup when in the past it was 540. I'll not quote his exact words on here.

No I took cold feet when I saw the forecast.

Well done you two. Whenever there is thunder in the air pigeons react differently. Some handle it better than others.

Why did they halt the liberation Yvonne?

Is this based on velocity alone? Surely 2 different races from different race points released at different times.

Well done!

Perhaps there is a more appropriate means of questioning decisions available and, perhaps the logic and weather reports used by controllers should be available for all to see. That remark would apply to every organisation. Having said I am more than certain that all controllers try to ensure good racing under very difficult conditions.

It's getting us started which is the problem!

Absolutely the way to go!

He hardly even supports the club never mind the National yet he comes on here and is allowed to criticise those who do actually compete and who work for the benefit of pigeon racing. He is a complete parasite and the fact that he is allowed to use this site for his own ends does nothing for the sites credibility. How often has he been allowed to offer advice to people when that advice is completely off the mark.

R.I.P George

I may be wrong on this but I think there is a clause in the SNRPC constitution which states they will always go to the gold medal race and liberate alone. While that is in place it will always be a stumbling block. Yes it is a waste of money.

If you are not questioning their professionalism Why did you ask if all these tests could be done on a dropping sample alone. I don't think you need any further input from me

They are a professional organisation. If they say these tests can be done on a droppings sample I would believe then. I have no idea how accurate the results are compared with traditional methods. Results done by any method can only be as accurate as the sample is representative.

The bird doesn't look terribly I'll from the photograph so what I say may be irrelevant. If it doesn't respond to a canker treatment then it may be seeing the symptoms of a Herpes Virus.

That's my feeling. My thoughts are maybe a toss from the east but depending on how the weather pans out. I really enjoy a family shopping trip to Livingston! Having said that Ayrshire are basketing tonight for Otterburn I believe.

Really I was just about to stick some in a basket. Thanks for that Derek! Sunday looks even bleaker to me.

You will get there. Many would stop for a drink today.

The word on pigeon chat now is that it was misty but that had burned off by 13:00.

There's time yet they will filter in.

That decision is difficult to understand given the fact that many others in the same area (Kettering ) were liberated. However we will only know the merit of it when we compare returns acros the board. Personally I am just a bit concerned now as I have pigeons at this race which I was counting on for later. Wishing you all good returns today or tomorrow depending on what organisation you are convoyed by.

Because they race on a logical route and have less potential for clashing they can choose the time of day to liberate and give the birds the best possible chance of returning to their home loft. I can't see much wrong with that.

I think we will see an improvement in form now!