johno

i`ll need to see hotrod for backing. the value of his medal is going up and up as GOLD is moving towards $1000 dollars an ounce. we`ll need to put cctv outside all the pawn shops.

i wis seeing stars too but the blood pressure pills have cured it.

dream on rembrandt we are on a roll. rolled gold.

the price of polish is worrying me. brasso is no good enough for these medals

frank you bolted from the west as you knew the competition was too hot. 3 in row. i know it is not common for many. but the west is best. just like the fish man john.

i1m looking out the medal polish for the muirhead marking station. we have a Gold and a number of Bronze. a Silver would just finish it off.

contact greengrass he has all the info on bricon and a good deal on the others too.

whos is going. will it be another winner in the west? lets hear you.

good weather would be a great help.

marking at muirhead wednesday 16th July 2008. 16.30-18.30. lesmahagow 17.00- 19.00. ets all systems catered for at muirhead. race on Friday 18/07/08. another medal up for grabs. bronze medal to all region winners. £2.50p per bird. pools noms and bonanza.

how far are you flying?

glasgow liberated on their own.

good luck to you all

need to tell stuart there is a no bad cock up in fife that might be a good mating for his gold medal winning hen.

Kingdom Boy winner of two SNRPC nationals, one from Lessay as a yearling and the Gold Medal race from Reims last year has managed to make his way home. He had been missing from this years SNRPC Gold Medal Race from Reims since the last Friday in June. Great news. Hope more of our birds find their way back.

would it be possible for a reason to be given. i only ask as i do not understand why this thread has been removed.

good to hear from the voice of reason. you seem to be all in favour of banging heads if your posts on certain individuals are anything to go by.

the race was not open to all the pigeon fancy in scotland. some members of the rpra flying in scotland were not able to participate. well known fanciers from the east of scotland.

the numbers, 300, i use are real numbers from a real situation this season. this is part of the discussion.

lost birds will have their perches taken by other birds. the post refers also to the financial cost to organisations rather than individuals. less birds entered means unit price raises. unit prices raises numbers entered drop. a vicious circle. sound management of resources is becoming more and more an integral part of organisations surviving. when annual accounts appear for this year i am sure these will reflect major unforeseen or predicted costs which will cause much concern and head scratching.

i am not having a go at any one or organisation, as i stated in the original post. all i am doing is highlighting the complexity of the situation and way different aspects are so closely linked. pigeons have always gone missing at distance races.

there are 17 on the messac result. 10 per cent of the entry.

this weekend has seen a poor return from 500 mile plus races into scotland. what is the full cost of this disapointment? some lofts have had returns and may be happy with them this is fair enoiugh. the pigeons which hve returned are great performers and nothing can or should be taken away from the performance. for the majority though returns are poor and disaappointment high. the full cost of races such as these can be broken down in the following fashion. 1.good pigeons gone forever lost never to return. 2.the opportunity of breeding from these pigeons is also lost. 3.time and effort put in by the fancier bearing no return either financial or maintaining stock lines. 4. future years and performance will suffer as a result of the continual loss of proven stock. on a purely financial side the cost is also high. in these days of high fuel costs the management of resources is crucial to survival. races like this weekend have a heavy bearing on any organisation participating. the cost of racing from tours would be the cost of bringing the pigeons in on marking night. fuel and wages. fuel = around 500 miles . 12 mpg app. 45 gallons @ £6 = £270. wages including marking station hire, tea, food for workers etc, £500. total £770. miles to ferry app. 500. miles from drop off to tours app. 300. total round trip 1600 miles. = 135 gallon at 12mpg. = £810. ferry cost app. £300 return. total so far £1880. wages and subsistance driver and convoyer wednesday to sunday. 5 days each = 10 man days @ £250 per day £2500. total so far £4380. when you add prize money admin costs and any other additional costs it is easy to see this figure around £6000. income is limited to birdage. around 300 @ £5. =£1500. leaving £4500 to be found. this equates to £15 per entry on top of the £5 being charged. So the full cost of weekends such as the last is much more than the obvious. the follow on also means a loss of brdage in future years through more than average losses. this is not an attack on any one or any organisation. this is the real cost of distance racing.

so sadly there is a suspension.

the push for joining seems to be one way. maybe sound management and the gold medal are the lure.