jimmy white

remember,,,auld reekie ,, probably one of the best nat birds in the uk at the mo. 1 nat 2 nat and so on ,, winning a lot of cash on the way [thousands , w, kinnear and son have refused mega bucks for this bird ,,,,,,,,never raced as yearling??

its a long season,,,,,,,theres a differance in the way you treat yearlings , if you want them to win at 5 to 600 miles as 2, 3 yearold and upwards,, and rolands quite right in my opinion ,, pigeons hate east winds,, [ you have to think of the future, not the saturday comming,,,,and yearlings are better with the sun on their back ,, i have found this to be true in my experience , but every one to his or her own way :)

that says it for me ,, you can learn more about the birds themselves , that way ,, then decide later ,, a few years from now,, what sysem you would want to do , what races you would like to best at etc , but patience is the game :)

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;D ;D ;D some really amusing posts , difficult to pick any better than he other ;D ;D,, still cant help smiling at vics [just the thought of the knickers on the line ;D ;D ;D] i remember as a lad , splitting the tenis ball and putting the rubber in, throwing as hard as i could throw, it landed in the most unkept garden of the neighbourhood [a jungle ;D] never found the ball or rubber to this day ;D ;D ;D and got my blessings for rummaging in the mans garden ;D not as good as vics but never the less true ;D ;D [you got a minute a mile running time,,roger bannister hadnt even broken this record at that time ;D ;D ;D]

congrats to tammy on winning his club [flying well ;D] and same to wiley ,, good result

absolutely topping flying ;D ;D ;D as per usual ,, makes you think of the old one, " is it man or pigeon" i think youll agree its both,, one without the other is not good enough,, and must admit theres not many that can win from 60 miles to near 600 miles,, which you have repeatedly done,,, top class flying , would match anyone in the uk :)

good lad fifer,, all back weather here at the moment is bucketing with rain and blownig a gale ,, so it says a lot for the bird getting through that

congrats to all , and hope that most of your birds returned ok, a special congrats to the humble one [celtic ;D] as a novice , winning his first 3 races , this week taking 1,,2,,3,, with a very small team, great flying mate also a special congrats to all the triers , maybe not quite there this week , but wish you all luck for next week

an excelant article ,, makes you think and think

hope youve not got that excuse today fifer ;D ;D ;D £25 for best and £25 for forum ,, still going abegging,, see if theres any good ones after today ;D ;D ;D 2 weeks to go ;D ;D ;D maybe better sunday ;D ;D ;D after cooling off period ;D ;D,,,,,,,,good luck to all

canker has been recovered from the upper digestive tract of a variety of birds,, but its primary host is the domestic pigeon,, this is beleived to cause a desease in birds of prey called" frounce",,,,,,,dep, of zoology at syracuse university,,,,,,where "me" and sammy went ;D ;D ;D,,, actualy i went to yale university ,,,in fact i was one of the key men their ;D ;D ;D

sammy is bang on with this ;D ;D ;D good on ya sam ;D ;D ;D

in my opinion, many many differant ways,, first of all if the bird not in tip top condition its a nogo,, every bird is an individual , some fly better to one way,, some another ,, there are differant race factors , i,e long races , short races, , in some cases ive shown the hen on the thursday , and not on the friday,,[ sent them calm ] but if i wanted to win the" first few races" and forget about the rest of the season , i would train well , friday, would show hens leave half hour, lib them one by one from the garden , each one straight in to loft , then basket them again leave again for half hour then take them a 3 to 4 mile toss , single each bird up [they would be used to this b4 first race] there would be a bee line home[no circling] [the necklace system ] as soon as you see the tail of the one youve let off, let another off and so forth, these birds actualy race each other as they see the one in front , in the sky,, let them in to the hens on return,, basket them for club, AFTER putting black cover over basket to settle them again for half hour [5 grains of hemp in box thurs, same friday,, have used this method with 4 cocks won 4 races, then stopped them, [till the next year ] this , then allowed me to start my main w,hood team, treated in an entirely differant way??starting in may

the large animal practice is about two miles away from the s,a,c avian section , which only deal in avian species

still cloudy in the lothians ,, but sun trying to break through [at times] vis quite good ,,light s,w wind

actualy a great article ,, i see no one posted ?? is it any wonder they dont learn , if they wont read, they wont learn, and if they wont learn , they wont win

as wiley says ,, how do you know its not hurt, could be lack of calcium, [but doubt it] cant see lack of water doing this , bird would drink b4 this stage, could be bumble foot could be paratyphoid could be paramyxo needs a vet to look at it good luck

if you look back on many posts on health on this forum youll learn a lot about flagyl , i was on a flagyl drip when i had septic arthritis ,, its an antibiotic used for many things

pardon ;D ;D ;D ;D nothing wrong with my ears ,, a fancier phoned me up for a weather forecast ,,,i said ten past three ;D ;D ;D

please send some ;D ;D ;D a dozen will do ;D ;D ;D if their any good ill send for more ;D ;D ;D,,,,remember the name and address on the letter ;D ;D ;D] kemosaby ;D ;D ;D [ i cant bake can you,me ;D ;D ;D]

youll probably find it is the ulna bone which is broken on the pigeons wing, allthough repairable to a certain extent ,unforunately, the pigeon would not be able to race and win again

this happened to a forum member a few years ago,,,,,but the bush estate is a massive estate covering many differant vets and differant complexes [including the dick vet, which is the dearest] the vet im talking about is the scottish agricultural college [s,a,c,] dr bryn tennant[ of the s,a,c,] is an expert in the avian feild and gives honest free advice and help ,, a droppings test is £16 and a complete post portem is £27

do the members think they should be vaccinated every year ,,,,,or would a half dose do the job as ob,s ???? my thoughts are that theres big money in this,,, yes they need vaccinated as ybs but not so sure a full dosage as older birds is needed

youll get rings from your union when you join,, or if you join your local club they will get them for you [they may have spare ones right away]