For me I think the main thing is to keep the latebreds separate so they bunch up and range like normal young birds...if they dont range they will drap like flies imo That's very true George.The bottom line is,good doos are good doos, no matter when ye breed them. Ive been 2nd west region Gold cup with a 3 yr old latebred ( never in basket in year of birth )and its mother was 1st West Region Gold cup but was early bred and had every yb race.Bottom line is they were both bred for it and were good doos, nothing more. Late breds or early breds, no difference in percentage of good doos, imo.