Ace, I might be new to the game but I am not new to this world. You make me sound naive, which I am not. I actually have quite a nice team of excellent pigeons I have bought. So look out for me next year! ;D I know what people are saying but it is not necessary to harass someone because you have a different view. Honestly people should sort it out between themselves privately let the rest of the forum get back to the help and friendly banter that it should have. The last I am saying on this topic, quite frankly I am bored with it. ;D ;D ;D