I would just like to say this on the subject of losses. Breed 50, by racing time you'll have maybe 45, by end of season your likely to have say 30 left. By the end of the next season probably be around 15. Of these only 4-6 will have scored or bred something to go on to score, and by the end of the 2yr old season the 15 is now 5. How quick i get to that 5 makes no odds to me. Its not a matter of losing GOOD pigeons all the time, more often than not its the rubbish getting lost quicker than they otherwise would, but lost they will be no matter if its as yb y'lings or 2yr olds. JMO