Guest mambo Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 With section E and C sending the most birds, it was not hard to say, who would favour the drag,and with the Lanarkshire, being allowed to fly with the national, and helping out with 940 birds, does it really make it a fair race, for national fanciers,paying their moneys. when the drag helps regional positions would think more of the race ,if its a national race,for national men.with no aid from other clubs.but if you think that is fair,who am I to burst your bubble just looking at it from the small regional senders point of view
bigjamie Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 you have always got some bloody thing to say being a lanarkshire member you should be chuffed for the lanarkshire guys how well they done were you at the race do you race your birds
daviedoo22 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 Good doo's, good preparation and motivation wins national's
novo10 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 With section E and C sending the most birds, it was not hard to say, who would favour the drag,and with the Lanarkshire, being allowed to fly with the national, and helping out with 940 birds, does it really make it a fair race, for national fanciers,paying their moneys. when the drag helps regional positions would think more of the race ,if its a national race,for national men.with no aid from other clubs.but if you think that is fair,who am I to burst your bubble just looking at it from the small regional senders point of viewYou are a first class dick Danny now get to *expletive removed*
Guest mambo Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 you have always got some bloody thing to say being a lanarkshire member you should be chuffed for the lanarkshire guys how well they done were you at the race do you race your birdsYou don't understand what this thread is about at all You are a first class dick Danny now get to *expletive removed*What region do you fly in novo 10
Guest mambo Posted June 8, 2017 Report Posted June 8, 2017 Good doo's, good preparation and motivation wins national'sYes I would agree to a point,1 wind direction is the first hurdle 2 next is drag, 3then good birds4 then motivation but if you don't get the wind, and drag, your playing tiddley winks with yer self as far as winning the national goes.
tiger Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Danny instead of having a pop at Nat you should be congratulating the macs
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Danny instead of having a pop at Nat you should be congratulating the macsYes great win, but that was not what I am on about but let's say the nat allows some clubs rustle up 2000 birds that are not national entrant's, but they control the drag, what then, for your time and efforts not getting a fair chance of winning the national.as you know the national has issues on its own with distances without handicapping its self further.
Buff Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 The west had 23 in the top 100 in the national. That's to 1334 velocity. Lanarkshire fed had 26 better than 1334 most of them probably duplicated into the national so not much of "A Drag" id say
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 The west had 23 in the top 100 in the national. That's to 1334 velocity. Lanarkshire fed had 26 better than 1334 most of them probably duplicated into the national so not much of "A Drag" id sayThe west, had a lot of none national members send birds, the Lanarkshire had 250 birds for the nat race and 700 birds for there own race. None duplicated, fed racing have no problems,taking clubs to race points.for cheep transport costs but national racing is a total different thing altogether, as fairness has to be seen to be done, where fees are paid to their union.
dkj Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 The west, had a lot of none national members send birds, the Lanarkshire had 250 birds for the nat race and 700 birds for there own race. None duplicated, fed racing have no problems,taking clubs to race points.for cheep transport costs but national racing is a total different thing altogether, as fairness has to be seen to be done, where fees are paid to their union. danny section E had 949 birds in A pools,
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 danny section E had 949 birds in A pools,Yes, but not all from L/Fed might be from region, paying fees is different, from paying transporter cost
Roland Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 With section E and C sending the most birds, it was not hard to say, who would favour the drag,and with the Lanarkshire, being allowed to fly with the national, and helping out with 940 birds, does it really make it a fair race, for national fanciers,paying their moneys. when the drag helps regional positions would think more of the race ,if its a national race,for national men.with no aid from other clubs.but if you think that is fair,who am I to burst your bubble just looking at it from the small regional senders point of view IF YOU WANT A FAIR RACE, I SUPPOSE THAT THE OLR is it. However the fact is, and has been proven, on a week to week fairness Sections should be in the shape of a boat - like a Viking shape - and libs in the wind... I.E. a helping wind for all. Will never be! Why! Only one answer to why and that is BECAUSE. Now the problem is, and will always be, those protecting their corners and always looking to gain a march. These are nigh always the ones rising to the fore in committees etc. Gibed tongues that get pseudo praise as knowing. Spin a good story for those that follow and vote their way. Whilst others just shrug their shoulders and spout that they can't do anything. That that is how it always is, and always will be. JMO.As for Danny, well a spouter and stirrer that does little else lol.
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 danny section E had 949 birds in A pools,Tell me this then, how many nat men, that can send 30 birds and only pay £1.25 for half of them, and can create a drag not many, but only if you allow clubs to duplicate, into your race.they can have the choice to create. an advantage at your unions expence.
dkj Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Tell me this then, how many nat men, that can send 30 birds and only pay £1.25 for half of them, and can create a drag not many, but only if you allow clubs to duplicate, into your race.they can have the choice to greate. an advantage at your unions expence. danny there.s no drag at the front, old bird winners hold a good line
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 danny there.s no drag at the front, old bird winners hold a good lineGoing by the shortest flyers,the did not hold their line, as the west pulled them out
dkj Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Going by the shortest flyers,the did not hold their line, as the west pulled them out think the winners came up the 74 by gretna and the south wind got stronger which helped the doo.s into the central belt, think the early winners in the south are on the motorway how do you think they came into scotland
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 think the winners came up the 74 by gretna and the south wind got stronger which helped the doo.s into the central belt, think the early winners in the south are on the motorway how do you think they came into scotlandDoos 60 mile further up the road have the same velocity as section A 1 timer now that can't come up the m 74
dkj Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Doos 60 mile further up the road have the same velocity as section A 1 timer now that can't come up the m 74 explain the route they came then
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 explain the route they came thenWould have to, have been west of Wigtown ,and gretna birds doubled back 80 mile into Lanarkshire from gretna, wining birds, would have came in from strathaven end, and down through Clyde valley area
DJL Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 Would have to, have been west of Wigtown ,and gretna birds doubled back 80 mile into Lanarkshire from gretna, wining birds, would have came in from strathaven end, and down through Clyde valley area What about the birds in Duns, Tranent and St Andrews etc. Did they get "dragged" up the west too.
Guest mambo Posted June 9, 2017 Report Posted June 9, 2017 What about the birds in Duns, Tranent and St Andrews etc. Did they get "dragged" up the west too.If they come through Wigtown, they are on course for tranent as same for hamilton.as for duns and the likes it tell you all you need to know they were over the west side of the country, as some from that area had shocking times, and normally they win short race nationals, for fun.
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