Ferals Show The Way Eh!

Roland · October 9, 2016

You know, I used to, like many others, encourages a couple of streeters if they went into the loft. Cleaned up they were great look outs regards the dreaded B.O.P. Also beat any bird home from 60 miles or so ... Never took farther.

Yes they all get a mild dose of canker of course, but that prevented other strains, or that one becoming gross. - We constitute bad cankers ourselves.

Yes like wood - pigeons, and other bird species, some fail an illness from time to time. Of course they do! ... BUT by far, the very most have a great immunity against illnesses.

I've heard tale of some that got Para ... never seen it personally like most. Indeed only on a website chat room once. Never seen one with y/b sickness... Let alone a batch suffering from it ... indeed anything thing.

Agreed in towns they are restricted to feeds of nourishment etc. and rely on chips and such ... scrawny and thin etc. But no big deal in any illnesses. Great wild or where there is food... like Trafalgar Square was.

Dick Oakley and Pip Wells worked on the Gas board. Dick raced, Pip interested but couldn't afford it his wife said. Dick said many started with strays and sile bred.

So they raid the silo's and rung any black ones.

These blacks the year after and for 3 -4 years dominated the Northants Fed. Pip's wife said the money would be handy... so he sold out to a well known stud for a good price. True!

Potter29 · October 9, 2016

Interesting read ,like to read more into that if there is any more that is ? Lol

Roland · October 10, 2016

Those feral -in the beginning goes to show what a difference good feed can make.

W.D. · October 12, 2016

Interesting read, did they have to put padding on the inside of the loft?

Any that I have had in were always bouncing off the inside when you went near them!

Did they calm down over time?

just ask me · October 12, 2016

ive o local meal store colse to me there 1000s of ferals in it about 2 or 3 year ago i seen them dieing in there 100s by pmv twisted necks the lot full blown out symptoms of pmv most streeters are only a few generations away from a bird that was once in our loft how could they in a few generations build a immunity to a a virus

on them beating birds home from 60 mile there bred in the main from birds that could not find there way home

if they bet my birds home id be looking for a whole new team :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Roland · October 12, 2016

Obviously a biased, and not factual post JAM. Whereas I've seen and done much myself as many others have done and noted. As for betting your birds against them, you would certainly lose. Fact!

just ask me · October 12, 2016

the fact is these birds had pmv they are facts

Roland · October 12, 2016

Who tested them? Dafra! And when did you ever race your birds, old or the y/b's against a feral? We have. Indeed a in another scenario a very well know stud bought and sold loads. All having great and proven results.

ALF · October 12, 2016

Any feral doos come near our loft there is only 1 place they are going we take strays out the loft to a holding pen ASAP so no chance of a street picker mixing with them...

Delboy · October 12, 2016

expletive remove Tommy ( Sprint boy ) says ive got my doos fae under a bridge and I thought they were distance doos too, never thinking for one minute that they would horse everybody fae 60 miles lol. :emoticon-0136-giggle:

just ask me · October 12, 2016

as the corn store is right in the middle of a build up area and the local people seen the birds dieing and in distress the birds were tested as i said it was a fact that they had pmv

hopefuly this link which shows it goes back to the late 80s in feral pigeons https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1481393/

http://agriculture.vic.gov.au/agriculture/pests-diseases-and-weeds/animal-diseases/vetsource-information-for-vets/pigeon-paramyxovirus-information-for-veterinarians another source

feral pigeons are useally only a few generations away from birds that were raced in our lofts how gain they gain immunity to a viris in this time

October 13, 2016

You know, I used to, like many others, encourages a couple of streeters if they went into the loft. Cleaned up they were great look outs regards the dreaded B.O.P. Also beat any bird home from 60 miles or so ... Never took farther.
Yes they all get a mild dose of canker of course, but that prevented other strains, or that one becoming gross. - We constitute bad cankers ourselves.
Yes like wood - pigeons, and other bird species, some fail an illness from time to time. Of course they do! ... BUT by far, the very most have a great immunity against illnesses.
I've heard tale of some that got Para ... never seen it personally like most. Indeed only on a website chat room once. Never seen one with y/b sickness... Let alone a batch suffering from it ... indeed anything thing.
Agreed in towns they are restricted to feeds of nourishment etc. and rely on chips and such ... scrawny and thin etc. But no big deal in any illnesses. Great wild or where there is food... like Trafalgar Square was.

Dick Oakley and Pip Wells worked on the Gas board. Dick raced, Pip interested but couldn't afford it his wife said. Dick said many started with strays and sile bred.
So they raid the silo's and rung any black ones.
These blacks the year after and for 3 -4 years dominated the Northants Fed. Pip's wife said the money would be handy... so he sold out to a well known stud for a good price. True!

Liz picked up a feral squeaker in the barn 13 years ago and had never kept a bird of any kind till then,she had it for a year or so before she got anothe bird,it was badly injured [smashed up wing] but she helped it recover,it was the reason she got in to pigeons in the first place,it has never been ill since she first had it and it is still going stong today :animatedpigeons:

Roland · October 13, 2016

expletive remove Tommy ( Sprint boy ) says ive got my doos fae under a bridge and I thought they were distance doos too, never thinking for one minute that they would horse everybody fae 60 miles lol.

Lol Good Post ... Likewise yours J. A. M.

So Delboy buys in from some good stock and loses a couple of cracking youngsters, nest mates off the top. A cock and a hen ... peeve or what....

Likewise J.A.M buys in from some good stock and loses a couple of cracking youngsters, nest mates off the top. A cock and a hen ... peeve or what....

How ever the youngsters at meet at the local church and holy mackeral, they mate up. Not worth a wink of the eye eh!

One nest is under a tree aside a stream near a old corn shed ... the other pair both reds, nip into my loft for a feed. Reported, I'm told I can keep them. NOT worth a wink of the eye I let them stay in an old aviary of mine.... wife SAYS CHUCK SOME FEED IN, SO BEING A DUTIFUL HUSBAND I OBLIGDE AND TELL HER ''YOU WATCH THEN DETERIATE ... IN 3 YEARS THEY WILL BE AS BAD AS STREET urchers.

As they aren't worth a jot I don't bother to ring the YOUNG...

,those UNDER THE BRIDGE , BOTH BLUES HAVE A FEW ROUNDS. Fresh air and choice feed... not worth a jot. Maybe the grad children could be used as look out if ....

peter pandy · October 13, 2016

His name was Tommy Taylor and aged 13, his loft was made from scrap wood covered with old floor linoleum to keep it dry and he caught Streeters to fill it. Applying to get into the local club he was knocked back for two years as he and his family were undesirables, "to the local fanciers", however I persuaded others to let him in and we managed [just] and he obtained 12 rings to fly Young Birds bred from his streeters that had no rings. Competing against 40 lofts he won every race except the last one because some bassa broke in [which was not hard] and killed them all. I dont know what happened to Tommy and still think of him every time I am up his Street and the local fanciers who surrounded his ramshackle loft and put him out the sport. I hope they are shovelling coal down below..

Roland · October 13, 2016

Was a lad from Brum, forget club, have the name on tip of tongue. Caught and fed a stray. A clubman gave him a... well cull, or streeter whatever you want to call it. Was only allowed a rabbit cage ... he ended up with three, one on top of the other like. First race and in basket IT WON A NATIONAL, when there was not many Nationals about. Yep 1st club, first fed and combine and National. Was a good write up a little while back in the BHW. How many can say that ... let alone do it.

In the late 40's and 50's, even 60's MANY a race was one with a stray's, or a streeters off spring. Indeed strays sent and won too lol. Hear tale that is still rife.

What report it! Send up the road...

The best thing, and by far excels most of today's pigeons if the Homing ability. They never seem to circle, Just race home.

Now them scruffy urchins eating the dropped fish and chips will do the 50 - 60 easy enough, but these aren't the ones one is thinking off.

Was a time when the 'Church pigeons young were ringed and won, and many also eaten. Can't see many eating them scuffy blighters in town centres though lol.

But in war time Silo birds made the stew. AND also lofts after wars end.