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Moffat doesnae count Mick, you should be in the West Section :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Have always thought that Lewis

I'm 28 mls to Gretna

Yet only 25 mls to Davy Elliot at Newbigging

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I do believe the logical reason was to hoodwink the members by the Committee because by moving to the East of France the Nat would save money crossing the channel, Dover - Calais versus Portsmouth - Cherburg at more than half the ferry price. The SNFC inland races have destroyed the Feds for its own preservation and to my mind the main reason fanciers are departing the sport.

One just has to look at the last Rennes race flown and every subsequent gold cup to see we have lost the magic of the name Rennes which was and still is THE REAL GOLD CUP.

Good post Peter. Rennes was a magic race point and in those long lost days almost every fancier in the land entered their best pigeons in the hope of glory

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all distance races are poorly attended now, because only a handful of people can get them, and thats why the shorter races get more numbers, because it easier, we have two races over 500ml plus 1@550ml, 1@ 600ml,

we have 5 races under 500ml with the snfc with 2@ 290ml, 1@365ml, 1@440ml,1@500ml, into central scotland,

and the reason the solway get them, is there good doo men and going with mnfc, helps them big style,

and history tells you the greatest races in scotland were rennes and nantes,

 

Good post Davie

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No be much glory about it when there is less than 1000 pigeons at it

 

The Gold Cup will never lose the prestige George no matter the birdage. It will drop to under 1000 in the not too distant future regardless, but All birdsges will drop in line with it. Jmo

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plenty short nationals, hope they leave rennes and nantes alone, that what the snfc is all about

Davy I have the old club trophies dating back to when I joined in 1972

The Rennes Cup

The Nantes cup

Best average Rennes and Nantes

Flown for each and every year

We do not buy new trophies now as the race points change each year

It is very sad what is happening to our sport

Was just looking at solway ring allocation list for this year

Issued to members 7470 rings

Third young bird race Saturday past convoy of 2100

By time Stafford comes along 6-800 ?

What are Lanarkshire and other federation figures

Where are all the birds

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The Gold Cup will never lose the prestige George no matter the birdage. It will drop to under 1000 in the not too distant future regardless, but All birdsges will drop in line with it. Jmo

Then get organised and do something about it John !!!.

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Good post Peter. Rennes was a magic race point and in those long lost days almost every fancier in the land entered their best pigeons in the hope of glory

The old fanciers who no longer compete still ask each year have you any away to Rennes

No matter what changes that one should defo be gold cup

Jock Allan Symington when I was a lad used to time them for fun

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Davy I have the old club trophies dating back to when I joined in 1972

The Rennes Cup

The Nantes cup

Best average Rennes and Nantes

Flown for each and every year

We do not buy new trophies now as the race points change each year

It is very sad what is happening to our sport

Was just looking at solway ring allocation list for this year

Issued to members 7470 rings

Third young bird race Saturday past convoy of 2100

By time Stafford comes along 6-800 ?

What are Lanarkshire and other federation figures

Where are all the birds

when we came into doo,s in the early 70s, everybody wanted a good rennes or nantes doo, the stories about them that still keeps me going yet,

thats what missing now with pigeons,

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when we came into doo,s in the early 70s, everybody wanted a good rennes or nantes doo, the stories about them that still keeps me going yet,

thats what missing now with pigeons,

hear hear davie

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To much living in the past Reims and Ancenis are the modern day race points get on with it :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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To much living in the past Reims and Ancenis are the modern day race points get on with it :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

just different names but the same races, gold cup, and the longest race,

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just different names but the same races,

Too many looking for a easy time Davy which you will never get from theses distances the looses are what they are.Every year I go and every year I lose what I think are some of my best pigeons but if I get one it makes it all worth while,I hear a lot about building teams which I don't believe is possible from 500 mile plus races you may have a family that will produce birds that are capable but never will you have a team and IMO sending yearlings is madness.

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To much living in the past Reims and Ancenis are the modern day race points get on with it :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

Aye,,, And whats your excuse for not using modern transporters ??.

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Aye,,, And whats your excuse for not using modern transporters ??.

I am all in favour of modern transportation so bed time fur you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Too many looking for a easy time Davy which you will never get from theses distances the looses are what they are.Every year I go and every year I lose what I think are some of my best pigeons but if I get one it makes it all worth while,I hear a lot about building teams which I don't believe is possible from 500 mile plus races you may have a family that will produce birds that are capable but never will you have a team and IMO sending yearlings is madness.

i agree with you on most of it, apart from the yearlings bit, but if you get a yearling right they will win ok at 500ml plus, but getting them right is the hard bit, not just yearlings any age

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walter i like all snfc races and try to win at them all, but for me its all about rennes and nantes

i agree 100 percent m8 no better feeling than getting a good yin from one of these great races even people in the street that know nothing about pigeons still ask me when the rennes race is

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i agree with you on most of it, apart from the yearlings bit, but if you get a yearling right they will win ok at 500ml plus, but getting them right is the hard bit, not just yearlings any age

I struggle from Reims wi 2 and 3 year old pigeons think I could be out the game if I sent yearlings :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

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Too many looking for a easy time Davy which you will never get from theses distances the looses are what they are.Every year I go and every year I lose what I think are some of my best pigeons but if I get one it makes it all worth while,I hear a lot about building teams which I don't believe is possible from 500 mile plus races you may have a family that will produce birds that are capable but never will you have a team and IMO sending yearlings is madness.

Yes definitely time we all faced facts regardless of where we race from ,I watched all peregrine webcams with interest each nest rearing 3/4 young these young left the nests to be taught to kill just as our water races were starting so the number of hunting Falcons just multiplied by 3x4

This years channel races

Reims 1323 entered 113 on result bottom velocity 401 ypm

Ancenis 294 entered 77 on result bottom velocity 458 ypm

Ypres 2324 entered 294 on result bottom velocity 560 ypm

Roye 1135 entered 114 on result bottom velocity 617 ypm

Those facts clearly show there are no good race points

1000's of the so called cream missing

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I struggle from Reims wi 2 and 3 year old pigeons think I could be out the game if I sent yearlings :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

the problem is some boys win y/ bird races, and upto 250ml with old birds and think racing easy, go to the nationals and get hammered, and blame everything bar them selfs, 500ml plus racing hard, everybody gets plenty knocks, but you when you get one, you think its all easy again

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Personally I don't care about the distance for me it's about getting a big turn out and making it the biggest and the best race around...

 

Don't see other way to increase entries tbh other than shorter distance or drop the inlands

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