Ets Timing & Location Of Pads / Sensors At Loft

[1967]

The S.H.U. and the S.N.F.C. need to understand their own rules before they start implementing more nonsense into pigeon racing regarding placement of E.T.S. Pads Just another sign of some clown bumping there gums over something that could never stand up in court same old same old at this time of year every year

[Big Davie]

The S.H.U. and the S.N.F.C. need to understand their own rules before they start implementing more nonsense into pigeon racing regarding placement of E.T.S. Pads Just another sign of some clown bumping there gums over something that could never stand up in court same old same old at this time of year every year

1967, I agree the current SHU rules are very loose regards location of pads / timing arrivals and are open to interpretation, but sure as eggs as eggs, sooner or later some clown will fall foul of them and get disqualified, I just hope it's not you

[Guest johnhunter]

Mine is just over the threshold Davie, imo the doo disnae need to be captured or confined it just has to enter the loft. Ma lot often enter then come back out again and I don't see how that could be an issue.

according to shu no9 rule that trap is illegal the bird is not confined and can get back out

[geordie1234]

according to shu no9 rule that trap is illegal the bird is not confined and can get back out

Wrong

 

[1967]

<br />1967, I agree the current SHU rules are very loose regards location of pads / timing arrivals and are open to interpretation, but sure as eggs as eggs, sooner or later some clown will fall foul of them and get disqualified, I just hope it's not you<br />

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Yes Davies there will always be the ones that will flaunt the rules. There is a rule that makes all this arguing pointless and that would need to be changed before any of this even became relevant As usual people get tunnel vision before they look at the big picture

[Delboy]

This topic is a massive can of worms and could be detrimental to the pigeon sport imo. As I posted earlier, how many ets traps have been purchased that now have a question mark over their legality? I think we have to use common sense on this subject as I think it is trouble with a capital T. LAW SUITS would be forthcoming I am sure.

[William Reid]

Guys I put this post up to provoke some thoughts and create debate so keep your thoughts coming, this has nothing to do with the old potato about the advantages / disadvantages of ETS vs conventional timing, I understand and accept all of that', it's about birds being timed before they have crossed the threshold / entrance to the loft i.e. Standing on a landing board, I will try to post up a few scenarios later

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[William Reid]

This topic is a massive can of worms and could be detrimental to the pigeon sport imo. As I posted earlier, how many ets traps have been purchased that now have a question mark over their legality? I think we have to use common sense on this subject as I think it is trouble with a capital T. LAW SUITS would be forthcoming I am sure.

Totally agree old yin . But one thing about the guy who started this topic is he always does his homework and will have back up .

Maybe he will let us know what rattled his cage

[Kennybhoy]

This topic is a massive can of worms and could be detrimental to the pigeon sport imo. As I posted earlier, how many ets traps have been purchased that now have a question mark over their legality? I think we have to use common sense on this subject as I think it is trouble with a capital T. LAW SUITS would be forthcoming I am sure.

To right del a couple of lawsuits will wipe out the game so the shu should clarify the rules to prevent this imo and your right davie great topic good to hear everyone's opinions

[Delboy]

Totally agree old yin . But one thing about the guy who started this topic is he always does his homework and will have back up .

Maybe he will let us know what rattled his cage

 

I'm not sure we want to hear what's rattled Davies cage Billy, less is more in this instance imo ps. You've got 20 years start on me lol, da

Edited April 4, 2016 by Delboy

[William Reid]

I'm not sure we want to hear what's rattled Davies cage Billy, less is more in this instance imo ps. You've got 20 years start on me lol, da

Aye again yir probably right papa

[JohnQuinn]

according to shu no9 rule that trap is illegal the bird is not confined and can get back out

 

Ye were sayin John ??

[Guest bigda]

The ets pad or pads has to have 2 clock seals. Fitted and noted. Where they remain during the season and only the federation delegates are able to cut the strings on renewal of clock seal each year or emergency, and if seals are broke, yer finished in the doo game,all club winners every week there , seal to be checked .before race result made known, in the event of open races all doos timed must must have seals intact. And checked by club delegates, keep to this rule. Races look after themselves

[bibendium]

What about , where a veranda is present, the ETS pad could be fitted under the veranda roof and is technically inside the loft , but the bird could be timed while sitting at the trap not inside the loft.

[geordie1234]

What about when a fanciers picks a pigeon off the landing board and removes it's rubber? Which has been done?

[bibendium]

Your right george, same scenario, my ets pad is inside the loft inside bob wires the birds have to physicaly cross the pad to be registered.

[VAGIN]

Have I missed something? Is this ETS a new thing? I believe people used to have to run from the loft to the town square and time into one clock......what happened then if one guy could run faster than everyone else? Ⱐ🃠😭

 

If you had to run Paul you would be last every week^_^

[walterboswell59]

yet again the majority cater to the i dont want it and i dont want you to have it brigade maybe whats needed to put this to bed is all the guys using ets go to the shu agm and get it past that pads can be placed anywhere on the loft problem solved

[DJWa]

The ets pad or pads has to have 2 clock seals. Fitted and noted. Where they remain during the season and only the federation delegates are able to cut the strings on renewal of clock seal each year or emergency, and if seals are broke, yer finished in the doo game,all club winners every week there , seal to be checked .before race result made known, in the event of open races all doos timed must must have seals intact. And checked by club delegates, keep to this rule. Races look after themselves

 

 

I think you will find that rule was scrapped danny

 

it was rule 22 in the old ets clock rules rule book 2005

it wasn't in rule book 2014 or this years one 2016

 

also lots of lads on plots take their systems home with them after a race incase they get nicked

[Walter swanston]

yet again the majority cater to the i dont want it and i dont want you to have it brigade maybe whats needed to put this to bed is all the guys using ets go to the shu agm and get it past that pads can be placed anywhere on the loft problem solved

[Walter swanston]

100% correct Mr. Boswell the attendance at the SHU AGM is a joke,usually about 5 members attend

[Guest bigda]

The rule should be the same as for clocks a nominate clock if 2 are set. And nominate yer pad .then use a t3 or stb clock, if you use more than on pad. Simple and should be the case. Clock men have to perform this. Most weeks if yer doo goes into another loft. Not the named pad so be it as thus

[Delboy]

The rule should be the same as for clocks a nominate clock if 2 are set. And nominate yer pad .then use a t3 or stb clock, if you use more than on pad. Simple and should be the case. Clock men have to perform this. Most weeks if yer doo goes into another loft. Not the named pad so be it as thus

 

does your clock have to be in the loft Danny , this is a no brainer of an argument imo.

[DJWa]

The rule should be the same as for clocks a nominate clock if 2 are set. And nominate yer pad .then use a t3 or stb clock, if you use more than on pad. Simple and should be the case. Clock men have to perform this. Most weeks if yer doo goes into another loft. Not the named pad so be it as thus

 

your beyond help danny :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Guest bigda]

does your clock have to be in the loft Danny , this is a no brainer of an argument imo.

 

That is the stepping point, you with the clock ,has to get the rubber no matter where the bird ends up.but can only use a named clock. Why not have one pad allowed and you take yer bird to the one named pad if yer pad fails you use a Stb or T 3. Backup no multi pads bigda here of the under dog