Stu3y Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 our first old bird race is in 9 days, my pigeons have been out flying for about a week now after been locked up for the winter, i plan on getting a few training chucks in to them over the next few days, first race is 50 miles, will they be fit enough by then or am i best off missing the first one?
dal2 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 our first old bird race is in 9 days, my pigeons have been out flying for about a week now after been locked up for the winter, i plan on getting a few training chucks in to them over the next few days, first race is 50 miles, will they be fit enough by then or am i best off missing the first one?Too early
Delboy Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 our first old bird race is in 9 days, my pigeons have been out flying for about a week now after been locked up for the winter, i plan on getting a few training chucks in to them over the next few days, first race is 50 miles, will they be fit enough by then or am i best off missing the first one? Why miss any races if they can go? Get up in the morning and train them and then the same at night if needed. No excuses.
peter pandy Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 Agree with Derek morning and night 15-20 miles for next seven days.
blue pied Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 Agree with Derek morning and night 15-20 miles for next seven days.Why would they need so much for a 50 mile race?
peter pandy Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 Why would they need so much for a 50 mile race?Tae get them fit !!!! More birds are lost at 20 miles on the first toss because the wings cannot propel them due to fat and lack of muscle tone. How would you feel if you were locked in a room for 5/6 months then asked to take the dog a walk ? you would be knackered after 200 yards and looking for a bus tae tak ye hame..
blue pied Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 Tae get them fit !!!! More birds are lost at 20 miles on the first toss because the wings cannot propel them due to fat and lack of muscle tone. How would you feel if you were locked in a room for 5/6 months then asked to take the dog a walk ? you would be knackered after 200 yards and looking for a bus tae tak ye hame..Was just askin mate
blue pied Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 Was just askin mateI usually give mines 1 toss a day for a week then race, never really been into 2 tosses a day
Delboy Posted March 30, 2016 Report Posted March 30, 2016 I usually give mines 1 toss a day for a week then race, never really been into 2 tosses a day mine will get 2 or 3 spins before first race as they are flying well at loft. Thats just my yearlings though as my older birds know the script and will be started later.
Wiley Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 If your birds have only been out for a week imo they are not fit enough to be trained
tiger Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 Tae get them fit !!!! More birds are lost at 20 miles on the first toss because the wings cannot propel them due to fat and lack of muscle tone. How would you feel if you were locked in a room for 5/6 months then asked to take the dog a walk ? you would be knackered after 200 yards and looking for a bus tae tak ye hame.. yes peter and there will more bird lost in the first 3 or 4 races than the rest of races not because that are not fit but its to cold, jmo
dal2 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 If your birds have only been out for a week imo they are not fit enough to be trainedThere it is
Wiley Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 There it is I maybe old school dal, but the basket wouldnt be out unless they was putting a shift in around the loft for 3-4 weeks
geordie1234 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) No way fit enough Edited March 31, 2016 by geordie1234
Darnaway Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 Loft fly for minimum 3 weeks to loosen them up then choose your days as its too cold just now jmo
Delboy Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) I maybe old school dal, but the basket wouldnt be out unless they was putting a shift in around the loft for 3-4 weeks no need 3-4 weeks imo, a lot of guys doos are locked up from Sept - first week in April before they are let out and they still manage to get them right for the first race.( this includes myself )if the birds are split, they will get fit very quick Edited March 31, 2016 by Delboy
JohnQuinn Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 If your birds have only been out for a week imo they are not fit enough to be trained Nail on the head. They have to be fit to Train which isn't the same as fit to Race. 1. Get them flying for an hour at home.2. Train them until they Race home from the toss.3. Race them. 4. Nae shortcuts it'll only cost ye in lost pigeons before the season starts.
walterboswell59 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 I maybe old school dal, but the basket wouldnt be out unless they was putting a shift in around the loft for 3-4 weeksme to wiley not giving the birds a chance if there just out after being locked up all winter cold or not if there not fit they go down
dal2 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 me to wiley not giving the birds a chance if there just out after being locked up all winter cold or not if there not fit they go downAre you training Walter?
walterboswell59 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 had two short ones with some latebreds steven but birds been flying one to two hours everyday all winter might just wait on the training van starting for safety just paired the old birds last weekend and the yearlings are still not paired see if i can get a wee jig out them in the early races before i have to pair them to get room for youngbirds can only try m8
dal2 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 had two short ones with some latebreds steven but birds been flying one to two hours everyday all winter might just wait on the training van starting for safety just paired the old birds last weekend and the yearlings are still not paired see if i can get a wee jig out them in the early races before i have to pair them to get room for youngbirds can only try m8Mine have been gan well for a fortnight( been out for a month but first two wwwks were murder) keep thinking about a basket then remember I still have a big coat on lol
walterboswell59 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 must say its never bothered me that its cold as long as not going to far in the past few years been training latebreds november december january with ice and an odd time snow on the ground with no problems with my loft open halfway up there used to the cold steven no molly codling here i need to do my work in cold or rain they need to do the same but thats just the yearling like dell my old bird team will not start till 3rd or 4th race with only 3or4 tosses but they will get open bowl most of the day till then
dal2 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 must say its never bothered me that its cold as long as not going to far in the past few years been training latebreds november december january with ice and an odd time snow on the ground with no problems with my loft open halfway up there used to the cold steven no molly codling here i need to do my work in cold or rain they need to do the same but thats just the yearling like dell my old bird team will not start till 3rd or 4th race with only 3or4 tosses but they will get open bowl most of the day till thenNah I molly coddle as regards training. I might not train at all just get them into the first yin if they show alrite round loft
walterboswell59 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 not for me stevie like them to get a wee sharpener after being idle all year just to get the homing head on i know what im like when doing nothing for weeks then going out to do a shift and if they went down id be blaming myself but everyone to there own
geordie1234 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Posted March 31, 2016 Nah I molly coddle as regards training. I might not train at all just get them into the first yin if they show alrite round loftThink I won't train either...canny be *expletive removed*.d
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