Best Sprint Pigeons

[tiger]

well done paul there is no dout yous are top pigeon men with top birds and your grand father is one of best doo man in scotland now tell me over the last 3 or 4 years your results over 250 mls ie number of birds sent to each race and results ? please

[Paul Mac 31]

well done paul there is no dout yous are top pigeon men with top birds and your grand father is one of best doo man in scotland now tell me over the last 3 or 4 years your results over 250 mls ie number of birds sent to each race and results ? please

 

Not a problem when i get home i will post them up also. Off the Top of my Head

2013 1st 2nd Fed... west sec Ypres 450 miles

then of course if you knew the ins and outs of it before asking the ? ..

After the record breaking season in lanarkshire Fed in 2013 we stop 6 top Racers for the breeding loft i.e super 31.. black cavair.joint venture.. cleo 005... all fed toppers up to 450.

We then for raced the old bird team out at the grandfathers.. while building the new loft for 2014 ybs.. so as a "Distance specialist" as yourself.. you will know that its takes some time to build ur team back up.. however in this period of time the year and a half u are talking about im pretty.sure only racing yearlings and ybs we have won more 1,2,3 federations than any other fancier in lanarkshire....

 

not a bad start to a new generation would u not say?

 

I will post they results up later 😊

[dal2]

Not a problem when i get home i will post them up also. Off the Top of my Head

2013 1st 2nd Fed... west sec Ypres 450 miles

then of course if you knew the ins and outs of it before asking the ? ..

After the record breaking season in lanarkshire Fed in 2013 we stop 6 top Racers for the breeding loft i.e super 31.. black cavair.joint venture.. cleo 005... all fed toppers up to 450.

We then for raced the old bird team out at the grandfathers.. while building the new loft for 2014 ybs.. so as a "Distance specialist" as yourself.. you will know that its takes some time to build ur team back up.. however in this period of time the year and a half u are talking about im pretty.sure only racing yearlings and ybs we have won more 1,2,3 federations than any other fancier in lanarkshire....

 

not a bad start to a new generation would u not say?

 

I will post they results up later 😊

No need to bother with results Paul.......just let the birds do the talking whether it be 50 miles or 500

[Guest johnhunter]

down to loft location

lol

[William Reid]

I wouldn't even pigeon hole them into sprint they have the best 1 day pigeons around....1st Ypres recently. ....no really a sprint is it

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[We man]

We all know there is a lot of disease about in the doo game,the worst one is jealousy.

[Paul Mac 31]

well done paul there is no dout yous are top pigeon men with top birds and your grand father is one of best doo man in scotland now tell me over the last 3 or 4 years your results over 250 mls ie number of birds sent to each race and results ? please

 

 

Results As requested..

 

From 2013 – 2015 we have entered approximately 14 Federation races from a distance of (Newark) 233 miles to (Ypres) 450 miles winning the following:

 

1st 2nd 31st Fed Ypres 671 birds

1st 2nd 3rd Fed NewarK 3923 birds

1st Fed Leicester 2622 birds

2nd Fed Warwick 3018 birds

2nd 32 Fed Uttoxeter 372 birds

4th 12th Fed Peterborough 841 birds

11th Fed Portsmouth 836 birds

12th Fed Upperhayford 1215 birds

14th 16th Fed Maidstone 839 birds

15th 18th 29th Fed Ypres 602 birds

24th Fed Newbury 1427 birds

 

3 X 1st Fed from 14 races entered, and no other member won more than One 1st Fed over the same 14 races.

 

Please take into account the fact that we changed loft location mid-season in 2014 after braking all records in the Lanarkshire Federation in 2013 with 9 X 1st Feds and 26 trophies , topping the Fed along the way from 64 miles to Ypres 450 miles. At the end of 2013 we also retired our 6 best racers (all 1st Fed winners) to stock. We started at our new loft location 18months ago with a total of 36 empty nest boxes and won the Federation Young Bird Average in our first year in 2014 (the toughest young bird program the Federation has ever experienced). This year in 2015 we completed the full Federation program with a team of inexperienced Yearlings as all the Yearling hens had only 1 race as a young bird and most of the cocks with only 3 races, but still we managed to win the 1st 7 race average, the inland average up to 380 miles and the young bird average for the 9th time in the last 10 seasons.

 

We have flown 28 Federation races to the new loft location and have managed to achieve Fed positions in 22 of them winning 4 X 1st Fed, 8 X 2nd Fed, 4 X 3rd Fed and 6 X 4th Fed (more than any other member in the Fed over the same 28 races). In 15 of these races we were not out of the first four in the Open.

 

I know you only requested the last 3 seasons’ results from 250 miles and above but I would like to extend that information to give the viewing public a true reflection of our performances at 233 miles and above by quoting the following all achieved since 2003.

 

1st 44th Fed Newark 5318 birds

1st 2nd 28th 29th 40th Fed Huntingdon 2983 birds

2nd 3rd 4th 13th 23rd 27th 28th Fed Leicester 5154 birds

1st 2nd 6th 12th 15th 25th Fed Leicester 2183 birds

1st 11th Fed Huntingdon 3412 birds

1st 7th 24th Fed Uttoxeter 7416 birds

1st 23rd 25th Fed Huntingdon 2518 birds

1stStrathclyde Amal Huntingdon 7000 + birds

1st 8th 21st 27th Open Leicester 3696 birds

2nd 6th 9th Fed Huntingdon 2180 birds

1st 2nd Fed Huntingdon 1425 birds

2nd 3rd 37th Fed Maidstone 1238 birds

1st Fed Falaise 722 birds

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th Fed Newark 5198 birds

2nd 3rd 9th 16th Fed Leicester 1619 birds

3rd 4th 16th Fed Leicester 2245 birds

1st 2nd 3rd Fed Worcester 3352 birds

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th Fed Newark 5902 birds

2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 13th 17th Fed Leicester 3536 birds

2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 12th 14th Open Leicester 1922 birds

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 12th 19th Fed Newark 4082 birds

2nd 11th 16th 23rd Fed Wollaston 862 birds

3rd 9th 21st Fed Salsbury 682 birds

1st 2nd 3rd Fed Newark 3923 birds

1st Fed Leicester 2622 birds

1st 2nd 3st Fed Ypres 671 birds

2nd 32nd Fed Uttoxeter 367 birds

 

Quoting only our positions in the 1st three

We have won:

17 X 1st Feds

18 X 2nd Feds

11 X 3rd Feds

 

The Federation is so competitive that we know of no other member in the Federation that has won 12 X 1st Fed in their lives at any distance, yet we have won 17 X 1st at over 233 miles and every distance through to 514 miles, and still in some peoples’ eyes we are perceived to be out and out sprinters. Since joining the Fed in 1985 we have won over 110 X 1st Feds or Open duplication races and finished Fed champions 14 times, that is 11 times more than the only member to win this title on 3 occasions, another outstanding fancier and friend Andy Eadie.

 

We would also take this opportunity to put a few other ghosts to bed

 

1 It has been said in the past that we purchased “Janefield†to try and dominate the Lanarkshire Fed from this post code. Not true!! We raced at the same post code for 7 seasons in the Midland Federation prior to the Coatbridge Club voting to join the Lanarkshire Fed and we actually objected to this move at Club level.

 

2 We are currently surrounded by full clubs within our own section of the Fed and we are the most westerly loft in the very competitive Airdrie Club, but this did not stop us winning 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th in our first ever race in the new club and 1st 2nd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th and 12th club in the last race flown in 2015.

 

3. Over 35 times we have been more than 20ypm ahead of the next member in the Federation, so where are all the birds belonging to fanciers on our door step on these days.

 

4. We started this season with 36 cocks and 40 hens and on any given season our average for the year will be no more than 27/28 birds per race.

 

5. We have topped the Federation in every wind condition and at all velocities with distances ranging from 64 miles to 514 miles.

 

6. Our birds in the last few seasons have won Feds, Combines, Amals and National races for fanciers all over the UK (we will on a future date compile a comprehensive list of fanciers and some outstanding performances achieved with our blood lines).

 

It is well documented that in 1997 we walked away from National racing for a period of 11 years and even to this day we have no real interest in racing at this level with the exception of The Federation Duplication Races. It’s also no secret that we set out to develop the best team of one day racers that could compete to a high level of consistency in the Lanarkshire Federation, but it seems that achieving our goal is still not good enough for some people.

 

We are extremely proud of our record at all distances in the sport including our achievements at the distance eg

 

4 times 1st Open from across the channel when timing the 1st bird from the total convoy

4 times 1st West section in S.N.F.C. at 380 miles, 450 miles, 508 miles and 610 miles

2 times S.N.F.C. Gold Awards with “Janefield Geordie†and “Janefield Paulâ€

2 times S.H.U. National Ace 300 mile birds with “Supermac II†and “The Blue Slash Cockâ€

1st Open Strathclyde Amalgamation at 275 miles with “The Amal Cockâ€

Over 30 times 1st Federation at distances greater than 230 miles

Over 110 times 1st Federation at all distances.

 

Hopefully this will be enough information for people to make their own judgements on our racing history to date as our record is our record, we can’t make it any better and it is what it is, but I bet you there are a few distance minded people out there who would love to be sprinters like us.

 

There are many outstanding fanciers in the Lanarkshire Federation that keep us on our toes on a weekly basis and approximately 65% of these fanciers are not members of the S.N.F.C. but are top competitors in one of the best Federations in the UK.

[tiger]

very good paul great flying now can you put up races over 250 mls to 600 plus fed and nats as i see there are many races that are under 250 mls there

[dal2]

very good paul great flying now can you put up races over 250 mls to 600 plus fed and nats as i see there are many races that are under 250 mls there

30 times 1st fed at races over 250......that's plenty is no......sorry 230 20 miles?? Fling a stane at that lol

[Paul Mac 31]

very good paul great flying now can you put up races over 250 mls to 600 plus fed and nats as i see there are many races that are under 250 mls there

 

i you actually read the above, Lanarkshire Fed only go to 450- 500,, in recent years, and we stated in 1997 we walked away from National racing , so there enough info there to pick holes in

 

Also can you put on all of your :

1st Feds

1st section

1st nationals

1st bird home from the full convey

[tiger]

i you actually read the above, Lanarkshire Fed only go to 450- 500,, in recent years, and we stated in 1997 we walked away from National racing , so there enough info there to pick holes in

 

Also can you put on all of your :

1st Feds

1st section

1st nationals

1st bird home from the full convey

was not me that put up your distance post it was you and if truth be told yous are poor over 250 mls fact

 

and as for my results they are poor theres no way that i can even match your results

[Paul Mac 31]

Well if thats poor,, i will take it any day and twice on a sunday, No many better.

[tiger]

30 times 1st fed at races over 250......that's plenty is no......sorry 230 20 miles?? Fling a stane at that lol

 

 

tell me this then how can you get 30 races over 250 mls in 2 years ?

[dal2]

very good paul great flying now can you put up races over 250 mls to 600 plus fed and nats as i see there are many races that are under 250 mls there

You didny say anything about a time period John in this post..........still great stuff tho in a lifetime. Distance might not be the partnership holy grail.......but I am willing to bet that if they wanted to succeed at it they would.

[tiger]

You didny say anything about a time period John in this post..........still great stuff tho in a lifetime. Distance might not be the partnership holy grail.......but I am willing to bet that if they wanted to succeed at it they would.

now go back and look at pauls post 2013 to 2015

[tiger]

yes they are top pigeon men and have never said other wise

[dal2]

now go back and look at pauls post 2013 to 2015

I looked at the post where he said they had one 30 firsts over 230 and 110 all told and as I said that's plenty

[shugf2003]

That's why am glad the wee man has took his football serious at nine years of age other wise there would have been a new loft by now he had been at me since he was four about pigeons after visiting his Gran and papa seen the lofts out the back and the trophies on ma old dads mantel. Three million questions about pigeons there after before he forgot and got into football. just like me a thought at the time then I remembered the jealousy of our great sport. Sorry for that could have been the next generation he still keeps asking when am getting pigeons all is not lost. He says he will buy me a new loft if he makes it lol

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

We all know there is a lot of disease about in the doo game,the worst one is jealousy.

 

 

That's something to aspire to surely? If folk are jealous of you,critical and slanderous then you've made it haha

[shugf2003]

That's something to aspire to surely? If folk are jealous of you,critical and slanderous then you've made it haha

 

Exactly my point

[Guest bigda]

tell me this then how can you get 30 races over 250 mls in 2 years ?

 

It is not possible, to get that amount of races over 220 mile inside 2 years but I do belive the yearling open race in the Lanarkshire race , alludes them the most, as far as topping the fed goes. But they are there through there commitment and hard work and moneys spent on. Their hobby.

Edited January 8, 2016 by bigda

[Paul Mac 31]

If u actually read the post correctly .. the 30 x 1st Feds over 230 miles are since joining lanarkshire Fed..

As for the yearling open... please do ur homework danny .. we have won that more than any other fancier in lanarkshire..EVER

As for money spent, yeh prob the same amount as most have spent on smoking or drinking in the same period ... atb lads .. crack on

[kingbilly 1]

If u actually read the post correctly .. the 30 x 1st Feds over 230 miles are since joining lanarkshire Fed..

As for the yearling open... please do ur homework danny .. we have won that more than any other fancier in lanarkshire..EVER

As for money spent, yeh prob the same amount as most have spent on smoking or drinking in the same period ... atb lads .. crack on

There's no 1 close to your family as far as am concerned at club and fed level and your national results speak for themselves but wot am I really surprised at you took the bait lol

[Paul Mac 31]

Hahaha just a nibble...what im really surprized at is people giving us free advertising Tam....

(smarter than your average bear mate)

Atb for 2016

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[William Reid]

Hahaha just a nibble...what im really surprized at is people giving us free advertising Tam....

(smarter than your average bear mate)

Atb for 2016

😃😃😉

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