Todays Times & Returns

[tyson]

Ayrshire john was 8.30 lib

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Maybe race in yer own side of the country?

Lol, not far from the truth lol

[bullcock]

Maybe race in yer own side of the country?

The whole central west of Scotland was at Otterburn, are they all wrong?

[bullcock]

Lol, not far from the truth lol

Do you think it's time the whole west went back down the west route,Gareth?

[dal2]

The wholet central west of Scotland was at Otterburn, are they all wrong?

Yes. In my opinion it's pure mental to encourage a dog leg then moan about clashing as they cross the lines of other feds! As I say just my opinion and I am sure there will be plenty to give me a few peters lol

[bullcock]

Yes. In my opinion it's pure mental to encourage a dog leg then moan about clashing as they cross the lines of other feds! As I say just my opinion and I am sure there will be plenty to give me a few peters lol

Even if we did all race the west route, if we were all at penrith for instance, we would probably still lib 15 minutes apart!

[dal2]

Even if we did all race the west route, if we were all at penrith for instance, we would probably still lib 15 minutes apart!

I don't think your are giving our controllers enuff credit. 15 minutes isn't enough of a gap for widow cocks and hens so should never happen. Do your think your racing is much better on the east?

[Novice]

Yes. In my opinion it's pure mental to encourage a dog leg then moan about clashing as they cross the lines of other feds! As I say just my opinion and I am sure there will be plenty to give me a few peters lol

I am a huge believer in racing on a straight line. Pigeons are not programmed to navigate round corners.

I am also a great believer that, if you have a problem which stops you achieving your objectives then identify that problem and remove it from the equation.

[hotrod]

Yes. In my opinion it's pure mental to encourage a dog leg then moan about clashing as they cross the lines of other feds! As I say just my opinion and I am sure there will be plenty to give me a few peters lol

So who's line did we cross today Steven ?

[alec guinness]

Something happened today with the glasgow birds! Not sure what but too many birds missing today!

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Do you think it's time the whole west went back down the west route,Gareth?

We had a bad year down west last year (Lanarkshire fed) and that is why we are back down east this year, no doubt last year was down to string west winds with the young birds, for what its worth i dont believe one is better than the other as i can think back to 2012 and 2013 when the returns were great down the west of the pennines, fanciers have short memories.

[alec guinness]

We had a bad year down west last year (Lanarkshire fed) and that is why we are back down east this year, no doubt last year was down to string west winds with the young birds, for what its worth i dont believe one is better than the other as i can think back to 2012 and 2013 when the returns were great down the west of the pennines, fanciers have short memories.

Ask the lads in the midland fed who 5 years ago had 200 members.

[dal2]

So who's line did we cross today Steven ?

Surely the east side feds race down the east Stuart? Did I read Roberts post wrong where he said that ayrshire and Glasgow birds came together?

[tiger]

what a lot of P*** about racing the west route ? just look the best nat flyers they race the east side and still win .mr john bosworth simply the best end off

[dal2]

what a lot of P*** about racing the west route ? just look the best nat flyers they race the east side and still win .mr john bosworth simply the best end off

Don't understand this. Surely Mr Bosworth races on the EAST cos he stays on the EAST?

[bullcock]

Something happened today with the glasgow birds! Not sure what but too many birds missing today!

John, we used to go from Dunbar to St Boswell, but last year it was a bad race and was dropped for this year, but going from Dunbar to Otterburn was about a 80 swing south, this isn't ideal and me and my brother thought this was going to be a sticky race but they have to go, we trained Thu & Fri from Newbiggins this week to give the birds a chance if they came this route, but it looks like they did the dog leg up and around, I don't kbow what the answer is but we expected this to happen this week, but hoped for the best, dreading Aycliff

P.S my young birds have been training since MAY & June with all the National birds, same returns as everyone else.

[alec guinness]

John, we used to go from Dunbar to St Boswell, but last year it was a bad race and was dropped for this year, but going from Dunbar to Otterburn was about a 80 swing south, this isn't ideal and me and my brother thought this was going to be a sticky race but they have to go, we trained Thu & Fri from Newbiggins this week to give the birds a chance if they came this route, but it looks like they did the dog leg up and around, I don't kbow what the answer is but we expected this to happen this week, but hoped for the best, dreading Aycliff

 

 

Same here m8 will be my wee national basket at the marking next week!! have not had a bird since 12 today.

[hotrod]

Surely the east side feds race down the east Stuart? Did I read Roberts post wrong where he said that ayrshire and Glasgow birds came together?

Do you know where otterburn is ? No Feds would be near our birds today ,apart from midland coming up from Penrith area u. ,we had a clear path . Ayrshire and Glasgow 1/2 hour apart . ??? Nothing out of the ordinary there ,two birds from different races coming together , what can one not catch up with later ones from others ??.

[bullcock]

what a lot of P*** about racing the west route ? just look the best nat flyers they race the east side and still win .mr john bosworth simply the best end off

John, if the top birds home in a National race straight home then the west boys should race the west route, John Bosworth( one of the best in Scotland) races East staying in the East, every west fed who have tried the west route over the last 5 years have failed. the West boys would love to race the West route but, East is the way the birds home so "East is East", whether we like it or not.

[dal2]

Do you know where otterburn is ? No Feds would be near our birds today ,apart from midland coming up from Penrith area u. ,we had a clear path . Ayrshire and Glasgow 1/2 hour apart . ??? Nothing out of the ordinary there ,two birds from different races coming together , what can one not catch up with later ones from others ??.

expletive remove Stuart calm yersel. Half an hour enuff? . Would you agree it would be easier to control a rave in a straight line?

[dal2]

John, if the top birds home in a National race straight home then the west boys should race the west route, John Bosworth( one of the best in Scotland) races East staying in the East, every west fed who have tried the west route over the last 5 years have failed. the West boys would love to race the West route but, East is the way the birds home so "East is East", whether we like it or not.

Solway?

[hotrod]

expletive remove Stuart calm yersel. Half an hour enuff? . Would you agree it would be easier to control a rave in a straight line?

Never been to a rave mate lol. But on a searious note ,this is the race route our member chose at AGM so I have to do what a can , every lib this morn went brill all cleared in seconds straight for home .

[Delboy]

John, we used to go from Dunbar to St Boswell, but last year it was a bad race and was dropped for this year, but going from Dunbar to Otterburn was about a 80 swing south, this isn't ideal and me and my brother thought this was going to be a sticky race but they have to go, we trained Thu & Fri from Newbiggins this week to give the birds a chance if they came this route, but it looks like they did the dog leg up and around, I don't kbow what the answer is but we expected this to happen this week, but hoped for the best, dreading Aycliff

P.S my young birds have been training since MAY & June with all the National birds, same returns as everyone else.

 

Whats up with going from Dunbar to Otterburn? Some fanciers have forgot on the 3rd or 4th yb race it is usually a disaster , whether its inexperienced birds being jumped in or YBS that causes it, who knows but look back many years and race number 3 or 4 in the ybs is usually disastrous.ps. The west route for me was very good for returns but id still go for east marginally.

[dal2]

Never been to a rave mate lol. But on a searious note ,this is the race route our member chose at AGM so I have to do what a can , every lib this morn went brill all cleared in seconds straight for home .

If you read my first post Stuart you will see I say that controllers need our support. My question is this........why are their so many ayrshire, Glasgow etc ybs floating around solway? That's not on any line is it

[walterboswell59]

Whats up with going from Dunbar to Otterburn? Some fanciers have forgot on the 3rd or 4th yb race it is usually a disaster , whether its inexperienced birds being jumped in or YBS that causes it, who knows but look back many years and race number 3 or 4 in the ybs is usually disastrous.ps. The west route for me was very good for returns but id still go for east marginally.

your right dell but ive always thought it was due to clashing and percy