Y Have Sections In Your Fed

[kingbilly 1]

nope what they don't like is the fed makes out a top of the sheet and out of the 3 areas i there is a winner then that section or area is displayed at the top on the sheet followed with who ever is next from that section but the second section winner of the top sheet could be say 16th to the other 2 sections who would have 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 2 13 14 15 place in their section a one off winner they don't like that, they are wanting the sheet to read 1-45 and that is not on, as wind can alter the result, where as one club not just sections could take all 45 positions.

no dany only if the sections are not policed then its a free for all whe would be better just haveing an open result thare would be nothing rong showing the first 40 doos next to the section results to give us a true reading of the race

[jonl6280]

Can't be that hard to provide a open result ever week.

[Paul Mac 31]

having sections makes it fair thankfully there is no money involved as that would make this turnout like boothill, the weather can be the issue as i have seen rain in one side or the road and yet dry the other, we could not risk a 123 lib that would get the blame for hawk feeding, not given time to clear, loads of ammo there for the right thinker.

this info would only be a tool if you where selling birds most feather merchants like this idea so as they can add to there montages there result see this used a lot in england guy sell bird as 20th club, 56 fed fed race is 100 mile 400 birds compete and he sent 60 birds to it.

 

Take it that's directed to us.... if yer doo finishes 46th from 7000b .. finishing in the top % of the total convey u would discard it.??... they are the doos that win u averages.... its not all about the first position birds... thats how u maintain great stock... lots of info ..

U seem to have a right problem way us selling doos..danny.. or is it just jealousy..

[walterboswell59]

Surely someone can fly in any choosen club (provided they have been accepted) for club prizes and there loft location dictates what section they are in for fed prizes regardless of club or is that too hard?

i agree with you george but clubs should also tell fed sec when paying fed dues that new members loft is in a different section from the rest of club and that this has been explained to the new member that he will not get section prizes in his new clubs section but should get section prize for the section his loft is in problem solved

[Roland]

Simple answer to '.... why have sections in the fed' is to give decent performances merit on the East side. Simple really. Location, Location Location OR wind takes away most weeks the credit of many deserving birds and their performances.

 

Our fe, for example had separate liberations for the shorter races AND always had two sections. Yes an overall position too granted. Some great flyers on the West side gain the merit their birds performance's merited each week.

Like wise the East section in East weeks.... Gosh how the wind and location was show to be such a factor nigh every week. So it is a good thing and ALL decent size feds should have sections.

[Roland]

Simple answer to '.... why have sections in the fed' is to give decent performances merit on the East side. Simple really. Location, Location Location OR wind takes away most weeks the credit of many deserving birds and their performances.

 

Our fe, for example had separate liberations for the shorter races AND always had two sections. Yes an overall position too granted. Some great flyers on the West side gain the merit their birds performance's merited each week.

Like wise the East section in East weeks.... Gosh how the wind and location was show to be such a factor nigh every week. So it is a good thing and ALL decent size feds should have sections.

[kingbilly 1]

Simple answer to '.... why have sections in the fed' is to give decent performances merit on the East side. Simple really. Location, Location Location OR wind takes away most weeks the credit of many deserving birds and their performances.

 

Our fe, for example had separate liberations for the shorter races AND always had two sections. Yes an overall position too granted. Some great flyers on the West side gain the merit their birds performance's merited each week.

Like wise the East section in East weeks.... Gosh how the wind and location was show to be such a factor nigh every week. So it is a good thing and ALL decent size feds should have sections.

not if some one was in the rong section to start with

[walterboswell59]

nope what they don't like is the fed makes out a top of the sheet and out of the 3 areas i there is a winner then that section or area is displayed at the top on the sheet followed with who ever is next from that section but the second section winner of the top sheet could be say 16th to the other 2 sections who would have 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 2 13 14 15 place in their section a one off winner they don't like that, they are wanting the sheet to read 1-45 and that is not on, as wind can alter the result, where as one club not just sections could take all 45 positions.

correct imo danny same way there can be 50 or more birds in fav positions in a snfc race before the section winner of other sections time in the wind and loft position determins where the bulk of the open positions will be allways has allways will and the odd bird that is the acception to the rule and wins once in 20 or 30 year against the wind gives the guys that sit in the best positions the amo to spout there crab so and so done it in nineteen canteen which they think makes it all ok theres good pigeons and good pigeon men in every section fed and national but for open positions in both your loft location is everything lets not be kidded

[JohnS]

Yes one club or area could take all the open positions but thats what it is coming to if people are going to be allowed to fly in the wrong section because of a now outdated rule saying whatever club you fly in determins your section. The results of these sections then become false with individuals gaining an unfair advantage. This is why people are now saying just have open results because they are willing to affect themselves not to allow people gain that advantage over them by winning tickets,trophies and averages flying against them.

 

There should be be three sections determined by the Fed because its them who give out the tickets and this should be done by loft location.

 

There then should also be a weekly 40 or 50 pigeons open result published as well, the more information the better. Sections are and always will be a good idea but only if done correctly and fairly.

[Paul Mac 31]

Yes one club or area could take all the open positions but thats what it is coming to if people are going to be allowed to fly in the wrong section because of a now outdated rule saying whatever club you fly in determins your section. The results of these sections then become false with individuals gaining an unfair advantage. This is why people are now saying just have open results because they are willing to affect themselves not to allow people gain that advantage over them by winning tickets,trophies and averages flying against them.

 

There should be be three sections determined by the Fed because its them who give out the tickets and this should be done by loft location.

 

There then should also be a weekly 40 or 50 pigeons open result published as well, the more information the better. Sections are and always will be a good idea but only if done correctly and fairly.

 

Spot on.... I dunno whos moved where or when and in what section. .im not particularly bothered by that.. but iv been sayin for a few years that it would be good to have a open result each week on top of what we already have.... more info we have can only help us all..

As for location. ..yes iv said it myself strong east wind today boys in the west will be hard to beat...and the other way about...

But if u have lofts and clubs N..S.E and west of you... there is no advantage. ..

National racing walter is correct.... 9/10 ur aiming to win ur section

[Roland]

KingBilly says '.......not if some one was in the rong section to start with'

And the point being?

 

Certainly not that one wants to give credit for other good performances in a different location I fear.

Being it National down to Club level it is, and has been for far too long one protection their corner and wanting all the glory with no thought or feeling for other achievements.

[geordie1234]

Soon enough it will be one club for each section so not need to worry about it much longer

[Joe_b]

don't think it really matters when Clarkson join they were put into centre section when ask by or fed deli gets why to fed president mr Henderson why his reply was to make up the numbers and this was with Clarkson members at meeting with maps race points and proved they were flying more east than the newmains boys and still are but not a lot said about them if were in right section might be few theses guys top fed each week

[Guest bigda]

Take it that's directed to us.... if yer doo finishes 46th from 7000b .. finishing in the top % of the total convey u would discard it.??... they are the doos that win u averages.... its not all about the first position birds... thats how u maintain great stock... lots of info ..

U seem to have a right problem way us selling doos..danny.. or is it just jealousy..

paul let get this straight i am not a jealous guy and what i typed is this you do not take 20 th club you do not fly in a 400 bird fed, got it so its not directed to you why don't you ask the national to drop the sections and stand your place in there at say 60 th open against 2000 birds and all pools are combined what you say to that no section or regional prizes but what i did say a guy that is 24 mile out in our fed could take all fed position whereas the rest of the fed is blacked out weather wise to the other sections and you are not listening to what can happen west east or centre can have freak weather and they can have that for weeks on end but you are not prepared to allow them anything you might not be jealous but your are showing signs of i'm alright jack. so go ahead put yer letter into the national and see if yer argument has any place there when they pay out is 25/1 yer cash see how much of it is left when it get near the 60th position then again its not about the money but you mentioned it have a open bet if you want but let us all pay extra for fed work putting every bird in the sheet even in opens they have a frigging cut off

Edited December 3, 2014 by bigda

[Roland]

I take, that only those in a prominent location want just one section in Feds. Won't bother to say any more, except look at the locations for oneself.

Yes will have a few spouting that they are in a favourable position and wouldn't mind no inner sections ... Yeah Right!

Can't have a level playing field that's for sure, but has been one of the biggest and fundamental damage to our sport ... Protection corners and 'Bully for us and stuff them!

I know, just put the money in our coffers and shut up!

P.s. in one club I have a favourable location now. Fed wise not so, but I get any merit going that my PIGEONS EARN!

 

walterboswell59 saying '.... correct imo danny same way there can be 50 or more birds in fav positions in a snfc race before the section winner of other sections time in the wind and loft position determins where the bulk of the open positions will be allways has allways will and the odd bird that is the acception to the rule and wins once in 20 or 30 year against the wind gives the guys that sit in the best positions the amo to spout there crab so and so done it in nineteen canteen which they think makes it all ok theres good pigeons and good pigeon men in every section fed and national but for open positions in both your loft location is everything lets not be kidded'M says it all!

[walterboswell59]

Spot on.... I dunno whos moved where or when and in what section. .im not particularly bothered by that.. but iv been sayin for a few years that it would be good to have a open result each week on top of what we already have.... more info we have can only help us all..

As for location. ..yes iv said it myself strong east wind today boys in the west will be hard to beat...and the other way about...

But if u have lofts and clubs N..S.E and west of you... there is no advantage. ..

National racing walter is correct.... 9/10 ur aiming to win ur section

sorry paul dont agree on that point m8 im afraid lanarkshire fed is now the same as the national imo we over this side look to win our club and section a good open position is a bonus most times its a different race in each section of the fed not blaming anyone its the way the racing is unless a strong eastwind lanarkshire birds come out the east most fed results will tell you that how we change that i dont know and i think if we had first 50 or so on an open result it will show it even more the best fanciers in any section will always hold there own but the guys in the best locations will dominate an open result jmo but guys in the wrong sections dont help matters the fed has to police it but like i said before the wind and your loft location will always play a big part in the open result in any race and that has not changed over the years and west section pigeons seem to be breaking farther and farther to the east of the fed dont know if its the hills the hawks or what is causing the problem the front of our fed is no longer first drop its now the eastside that are first drop as any fed result will tell you good doo men will get there turn but the first open positions are very few and far between unless its an east wind and thats not a good wind for anyone as we can all have horrific races in an east wind to many empty perches for me but its not so bad when racing from the east everyone has there own opinion on the east west thing this is just mine and thats all ill say on this as its something no one can win if we talked about it for years i was 11th open national last year and 5th open national this year two good pigeons as they have both done it before but not a snowballs chance in hell would they have got those open positions if it had not been east winds both times and our fed is the same only thing in out favour is with climate change we are getting a lot more east winds which may even it up a bit but too many empty perches for me as some birds just cant handle an east wind

Edited December 3, 2014 by walterboswell59

[Guest bigda]

what map is used in sections, who told clarkston and airdrie where they were going, how did the vote go did we have one, was it a majority vote then there is over the clyde ,and this side of the clyde who made that rule up the clyde starts of way down in abingdon and beyond it also puts lanark in another area , and why does dalzell not get in to the east yet new stevenston can manage into it and uddingston can't manage it also and that if they then say they used the m8 as the way it is cut up to justify the centre section but there is some difference when you take chryston in the centre racing against the east some 30 mile and some 16 mile overflies to negotiate from the furthest fancier and trying to get on the fed sheet where would you like to be in a fast race yer bird in the shed or another 30 min flying then getting nothing for it is 45 seconds out side its time a hear you say it needs to try harder just to equal the first timer it's not sections we need its section off and if you are only going to congratulate birds that have the easiest route all the time count me out we use the big circle method when we race, why not use it to put you in to your section then never mind about roads or the clyde

[geordie1234]

Can anyone provide a REAL map with the current boundaries? I asked the other night bt my post got deleted

[kingbilly 1]

WEST SECTION

BURNBANK

BLANTYRE

CAMBUSLANG

EAST KIL

GREEN FIELD LARKHALL

LOW WATERS STRATHAVEN

 

LANAR & DISTRICT

 

CENTRE SECTION

NEWMAINS

CAM MORNINGSIDE

DALZELL

UDDINGSTON

CARLUKE

 

NORH EAST SECTION

COATBRIDGE

CLARKSTON

CRYSTON

NEW STEVENSTON WITH CLELAND AND BELSIDE MEMBERS LOL

GLENMAVIS

 

 

 

 

 

HER WEE GO AND I NO WOT YOUR GOING TO SAY ABOUT FLECK LOL

[Joe_b]

go for that mate

[Paul Mac 31]

Thats a fair point...walter.... everyone's in titled to their opinion... my point and my opinion is that it is possible to top the fed from any section in a straight race with no interference... good fit healthy and well motivated doos will always be there or there abouts

Last 3 Fed champions...

G.rankin. - west

Gwp mac - centre

A.eadie - east

 

Runner up this year

Tam rich - east.

 

Of course their will be days that the wind suits a certain section...that levels itself out over the season.. but to say one sec would take the 50 positions.. no chance..

I dont see the harm in what tam was sayin a seperate open result .. keeps everyone happy..

[kingbilly 1]

WEST SECTION

BURNBANK

BLANTYRE

CAMBUSLANG

EAST KIL

GREEN FIELD LARKHALL

LOW WATERS STRATHAVEN

 

LANAR & DISTRICT

 

CENTRE SECTION

NEWMAINS

CAM MORNINGSIDE

DALZELL

UDDINGSTON

CARLUKE

 

NORH EAST SECTION

COATBRIDGE

CLARKSTON

CRYSTON

NEW STEVENSTON WITH CLELAND AND BELSIDE MEMBERS LOL

GLENMAVIS

 

 

 

 

 

HER WEE GO AND I NO WOT YOUR GOING TO SAY ABOUT FLECK LOL

LOOKS OK JOE

[Paul Mac 31]

paul let get this straight i am not a jealous guy and what i typed is this you do not take 20 th club you do not fly in a 400 bird fed, got it so its not directed to you why don't you ask the national to drop the sections and stand your place in there at say 60 th open against 2000 birds and all pools are combined what you say to that no section or regional prizes but what i did say a guy that is 24 mile out in our fed could take all fed position whereas the rest of the fed is blacked out weather wise to the other sections and you are not listening to what can happen west east or centre can have freak weather and they can have that for weeks on end but you are not prepared to allow them anything you might not be jealous but your are showing signs of i'm alright jack. so go ahead put yer letter into the national and see if yer argument has any place there when they pay out is 25/1 yer cash see how much of it is left when it get near the 60th position then again its not about the money but you mentioned it have a open bet if you want but let us all pay extra for fed work putting every bird in the sheet even in opens they have a frigging cut off

 

Well u should name who u are talking about danny.

Iv never said scrap sections... but an open result on top of what we have would be ideal... sorts everything out... if it can be done for 5/6 open races a year it can be done for them all

[Guest bigda]

WEST SECTION

BURNBANK

BLANTYRE

CAMBUSLANG

EAST KIL

GREEN FIELD LARKHALL

LOW WATERS STRATHAVEN

 

LANAR & DISTRICT

 

CENTRE SECTION

NEWMAINS

CAM MORNINGSIDE

DALZELL

UDDINGSTON

CARLUKE

 

NORH EAST SECTION

COATBRIDGE

CLARKSTON

CRYSTON

NEW STEVENSTON WITH CLELAND AND BELSIDE MEMBERS LOL

GLENMAVIS

 

 

 

 

 

HER WEE GO AND I NO WOT YOUR GOING TO SAY ABOUT FLECK LOL

 

what would budgie say and k mcdonal and airdrie

[peter2010]

WEST SECTION

BURNBANK

BLANTYRE

CAMBUSLANG

EAST KIL

GREEN FIELD LARKHALL

LOW WATERS STRATHAVEN

 

LANAR & DISTRICT

 

CENTRE SECTION

NEWMAINS

CAM MORNINGSIDE

DALZELL

UDDINGSTON

CARLUKE

 

NORH EAST SECTION

COATBRIDGE

CLARKSTON

CRYSTON

NEW STEVENSTON WITH CLELAND AND BELSIDE MEMBERS LOL

GLENMAVIS

 

 

 

 

 

HER WEE GO AND I NO WOT YOUR GOING TO SAY ABOUT FLECK LOL

Who put that together then