Y Have Sections In Your Fed

[kingbilly 1]

Atvb at your new club pal

your getting 1 out fa under the bridge lol

[Guest bigda]

thats called deluding yersel , you are only working it out from the vel in the sections but htere could be another 29 in front of yer also ran in another section you dont see .

 

 

yes but that causes more work for the secretary and that would in turn puts up costs. if your not happy with your first 10-15 in the fed tough titty

Edited December 2, 2014 by bigda

[kingbilly 1]

whe will go throw the corect way letter into fed sections sorted by fed loft location determind wot section you go in not the club and if you fall out with the club and have to move into another club but not in thare section only club prices can be won and open results in fed but no section prises end of a

[Guest bigda]

and what if the offender tops the fed, what then about his 5 doo

Edited December 2, 2014 by bigda

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I dont agree or disagree with what has Been said ,but i think if the sections Are

Done away with there would be another split in the fed ,And also there will be some

Clubs that will very rarely get a fed ticket ,i notce that most of the fanciers that Are

For doing away with the sections get tickets week in week out ,think of the others

That rarely get a ticket ,or is it a case of fek them.??

 

I've never won a Club ticket, let alone a Fed ticket, but when I do it will mean something. Both clubs that I fly in are able to do very well in the Feds, so I have my target.

If I never win a ticket, it will be because I am not a good enough manager of my pigeons. That seems plain and simple enough to me. Why should I have some right to winning a ticket when others who have a pigeon before me don't win a ticket?

The pigeon racing game is one full of small minded deluded people who think they have some sort of God given right to win something. If we continue to split and water down our product, then the wins will have no value whatsoever. Better to win a ticket that has merit than to win one with no meaning whatsoever. When the going gets tough, the tough get going, but not by walking away.

[kingbilly 1]

and what if the offender tops the fed, what then about his 5 doo

wot about his 5th doo if he tops the fed so be it but wont win the section hes no in it only whay tp stop the section jumpers

[Kyleakin Lofts]

yes but that causes more work for the secretary and that would in turn puts up costs. if your not happy with your first 10-15 in the fed tough titty

 

Danny, the computer does the work nowadays, the secretary doesn't have as much to perform in the way of working out velocities etc.

[Guest bigda]

wot about his 5th doo if he tops the fed so be it but wont win the section hes no in it only whay tp stop the section jumpers

 

 

the only reason you would have section jumpers, is for more pool money in their sections, and i am sure seeing the likes of newmains taking 38 places out of 40 would not look to good reading some would get to thinking there is an advantage staying there as they do think with the national all boils down to in house fighting, and ends up splits north and south lanarkshire over what nothing the guys that do get a section ticket have to contend with maybe 8 other clubs to get it and in some races the wind is not in their favour as it is to another section is that not the case

[geordie1234]

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[Tony C]

Liberate in sections in races up to 250 miles, collate the highest velocities for an overall result. Could reduce young bird losses too.

[paddymac]

Danny, the computer does the work nowadays, the secretary doesn't have as much to perform in the way of working out velocities etc.

typical response from someone that doesn't appreciate or know the amount of work involved or the secretary does especially within the Fed

[Kyleakin Lofts]

typical response from someone that doesn't appreciate or know the amount of work involved or the secretary does especially within the Fed

 

I do!!!

It is still less than it used to be.

I've been a secretary for over 30 years in one organisation or another, so I do appreciate the work, but if you undertake to do the job then you should do the job.

[grdkeith]

typical response from someone that doesn't appreciate or know the amount of work involved or the secretary does especially within the Fed

Bit harsh he is only speaking the truth ,I well remember how long it took even to do a club result using the ready reckoner

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Bit harsh he is only speaking the truth ,I well remember how long it took even to do a club result using the ready reckoner

 

I remember watching them doing the maths. :D

[Guest bigda]

having sections makes it fair thankfully there is no money involved as that would make this turnout like boothill, the weather can be the issue as i have seen rain in one side or the road and yet dry the other, we could not risk a 123 lib that would get the blame for hawk feeding, not given time to clear, loads of ammo there for the right thinker.

this info would only be a tool if you where selling birds most feather merchants like this idea so as they can add to there montages there result see this used a lot in england guy sell bird as 20th club, 56 fed fed race is 100 mile 400 birds compete and he sent 60 birds to it.

[paddymac]

Bit harsh he is only speaking the truth ,I well remember how long it took even to do a club result using the ready reckoner

Nothing harsh about it, the fed secretaries job still involves a lot of work whether computers have made it easier or not. When everyone else goes home ther is still a few hours work been done that no-one sees

[JohnS]

Every pigeon racing should be eligible to win 1st club,1st section, 1st Open but the loft that is flying to must in my opinion 1) be within the club boundary set by the club 2) be within a section boundary set by the Fed. Now Clubs are clubs and make up their own rules and boundaries and as time goes bye clubs are opening up boundaries to get new members which is leaving the feds old rules vulnerable to manipulation. The Federation should act now and set three boundaries East/Centre and West and regardless of what club you fly in this is the section prizes you race for. This is only common sense and is fair to everyone that is an honest sportsman

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Nothing harsh about it, the fed secretaries job still involves a lot of work whether computers have made it easier or not. When everyone else goes home ther is still a few hours work been done that no-one sees

 

In a lot of secretary's jobs, when the rest are on holiday, the secretary still has work to do. It is a year in year out job, but it is easier now than it was then, in some ways. Modern technology has brought about easier contact and therefore in some cases increased the workload, but I'm not complaining although my wife does.

[geordie1234]

Surely someone can fly in any choosen club (provided they have been accepted) for club prizes and there loft location dictates what section they are in for fed prizes regardless of club or is that too hard?

[Tony C]

having sections makes it fair thankfully there is no money involved as that would make this turnout like boothill, the weather can be the issue as i have seen rain in one side or the road and yet dry the other, we could not risk a 123 lib that would get the blame for hawk feeding, not given time to clear, loads of ammo there for the right thinker.

this info would only be a tool if you where selling birds most feather merchants like this idea so as they can add to there montages there result see this used a lot in england guy sell bird as 20th club, 56 fed fed race is 100 mile 400 birds compete and he sent 60 birds to it.

The right thinker or the right excuse maker!

 

You could argue letting go in one lib and getting hit by a hawk could result in a smash, having more than one lib could mean subsequent libs don't get hit = better returns overall.

 

Weather plays a part one way or other in races as it is.

[paddymac]

In a lot of secretary's jobs, when the rest are on holiday, the secretary still has work to do. It is a year in year out job, but it is easier now than it was then, in some ways. Modern technology has brought about easier contact and therefore in some cases increased the workload, but I'm not complaining although my wife does.

Have the same problem myself but someone has to do it

[JohnS]

Surely someone can fly in any choosen club (provided they have been accepted) for club prizes and there loft location dictates what section they are in for fed prizes regardless of club or is that too hard?

 

Thats exactly how it should be but it isnt just now. Anyone who is a true sportsman would see that this is how it should be and even if some people didnt agree the vast majority would surely see that it is for there own good and true results to bring this rule in place to stop the minority of people who seek to gain some sort of advantage.

[Guest bigda]

Every pigeon racing should be eligible to win 1st club,1st section, 1st Open but the loft that is flying to must in my opinion 1) be within the club boundary set by the club 2) be within a section boundary set by the Fed. Now Clubs are clubs and make up their own rules and boundaries and as time goes bye clubs are opening up boundaries to get new members which is leaving the feds old rules vulnerable to manipulation. The Federation should act now and set three boundaries East/Centre and West and regardless of what club you fly in this is the section prizes you race for. This is only common sense and is fair to everyone that is an honest sportsman

 

 

if the guy tops the fed, wins the open he has all ready toped all the sections and won the lot he cant do better than that he is always timed from were his shed is no matter,

[JohnS]

Bigda, I know that but the way KingBilly is suggesting that some peoples pigeons can only win 1st Club, 1st Open as some people shouldnt be allowed to win section prizes.

 

This subject is pretty simple in my opinion, its only being made difficult by a lack of common sense,every federation member should be allocated a section based on loft location so the sections are a true reflection.

[Guest bigda]

Bigda, I know that but the way KingBilly is suggesting that some peoples pigeons can only win 1st Club, 1st Open as some people shouldnt be allowed to win section prizes.

 

This subject is pretty simple in my opinion, its only being made difficult by a lack of common sense,every federation member should be allocated a section based on loft location so the sections are a true reflection.

 

 

nope what they don't like is the fed makes out a top of the sheet and out of the 3 areas i there is a winner then that section or area is displayed at the top on the sheet followed with who ever is next from that section but the second section winner of the top sheet could be say 16th to the other 2 sections who would have 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 2 13 14 15 place in their section a one off winner they don't like that, they are wanting the sheet to read 1-45 and that is not on, as wind can alter the result, where as one club not just sections could take all 45 positions.

Edited December 2, 2014 by bigda