Guest uphallhen Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 I think its time for use to go back down the west. Because it will be easyer on the pocket. ie ets rings. If we go down the east next year then think about the ets rings that you have lost up till now.
ALF Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 Away and gies peace ya trumpet :P : : : : : ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
wullie semple Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 I think its time for use to go back down the west. Because it will be easyer on the pocket. ie ets rings. If we go down the east next year then think about the ets rings that you have lost up till now. you carry on go down the west you will get this type of racing every week
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 I think your ever obsesive desire to go down the west comes at a bad time when members at this time are left gutted at todays disaster. Give it a bye
Guest uphallhen Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 Away and gies peace ya trumpet :P : : : : : ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Dalf go and get your head out of yer ass mate. ps how is the training down the west going. ;) ;)
ALF Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 alf go and get your head out of yer ass mate. ps how is the training down the west going. ;) ;) ps...how did you get on today?????
Guest uphallhen Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 I think your ever obsesive desire to go down the west comes at a bad time when members at this time are left gutted at todays disaster. Give it a byeIf we stayed on the west this would have not (HAPPENED) . :-/ :-/
ALF Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 alf go and get your head out of yer ass mate. ps how is the training down the west going. ;) ;) this is coming from the guy who was sending pm's saying our secretary was a thief aye right you a wind up merchant :X :X :X :X :X :X and also a pr!ck!!!!
Guest uphallhen Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 ps...how did you get on today?????Not away but i do feel it for the boys that have lost alot of birds and ets rings.
Guest uphallhen Posted August 22, 2009 Report Posted August 22, 2009 this is coming from the guy who was sending pm's saying our secretary was a thief aye right you a wind up merchant :X :X :X :X :X :X and also a pr!ck!!!!alf that is not true.
bobby j Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 EVRYBODY shatered with what happend to-day but shourly in this day and age with mobile phones computers and mobile phones that can do the same as computers we could have better racing cant put up with this evry week none pigeons left try again next year bound to put people off pigeons
Taylorsloft Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 hope you guys get more of your birds home today the weather not good up here its raining
Guest Davy Fleming Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 My heart goes out to you lads and hope you get things a bit better today or Monday but I think to go West again would be a big mistake and wouldn't even think about. There is nothing wrong with the East . We (Almond Valley) have had the best season ever returns wise and some cracking racing so don't really understand what happened yesterday. In saying that we still have 2 y.b. races to go so wouldn't get to confident except fingers crossed. But honestly hope you get at least some guys, soul destroying I know but look after what is there today. :'( :'( :'(
Guest WINGS 04 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 i think we have had this as there are to many wanting to be to soft on the birds they should have been going out at 20+miles jumps so that the birds where not going from 90+ mile to 160+ miles this has been to much when you think that 3 out the 4 races where quick races and the birds where not tested i would like to see the fed have a race program where the 1st race is 60+miles then the next race 80+ then 110+ then 140+ then 160+ then if we need a come back race we can have one as i think this would help the birds get back from this desaster
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 i think we have had this as there are to many wanting to be to soft on the birds they should have been going out at 20+miles jumps so that the birds where not going from 90+ mile to 160+ miles this has been to much when you think that 3 out the 4 races where quick races and the birds where not tested i would like to see the fed have a race program where the 1st race is 60+miles then the next race 80+ then 110+ then 140+ then 160+ then if we need a come back race we can have one as i think this would help the birds get back from this desaster you are spot on Rab with everything you say here
Guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 I ALSO AGREE WITH WINGS 04. THIS WAS HOW YOUNGSTERS WERE SCHOOLED IN THE PAST. I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST WHEN WE GET OUT TO 120 -160 MLS ALL THE SCOTTISH FEDS SHOULD GET TOGETHER AND HAVE ONE MASS LIBERATION. AT LEAST IF THEY REACH SCOTLAND THEY WILL GET HOME FROM THERE
REDROCKET Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 i think we have had this as there are to many wanting to be to soft on the birds they should have been going out at 20+miles jumps so that the birds where not going from 90+ mile to 160+ miles this has been to much when you think that 3 out the 4 races where quick races and the birds where not tested i would like to see the fed have a race program where the 1st race is 60+miles then the next race 80+ then 110+ then 140+ then 160+ then if we need a come back race we can have one as i think this would help the birds get back from this desaster here here
davieboy Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 may be the bigest problem is every body wants to go early cant avoid clashing we get cleaned every year as scotsmem going over when our birds are returning when i used to fly in scotish borders many years ago birds wer liberated 11oclock good racing time to arange more late libs
slinky slitheroe Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 I think its time for use to go back down the west. Because it will be easyer on the pocket. ie ets rings. If we go down the east next year then think about the ets rings that you have lost up till now.Seems to me the problem occurs once the pigeons get beyond the 120mile mark with english organisations above us .Lanarkshire fed should take the bull by the horns and go for a midweek race from this distance to avoid any clashing. I know there are fanciers working etc but the most important thing here is the pigeons must come first.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 Seems to me the problem occurs once the pigeons get beyond the 120mile mark with english organisations above us .Lanarkshire fed should take the bull by the horns and go for a midweek race from this distance to avoid any clashing. I know there are fanciers working etc but the most important thing here is the pigeons must come first. Your correct, first four fed races on Saturdays followed by 2 young bird races liberated on a weekday, 1 from 120 miles and 1 from 150 miles. God help the Lanarkshire race controller next year trying to get a window for liberating the pigeons once past Newcastle. For those who are against 2 Midweek races, tough titties as the pigeons must be given a fair crack of the whip once past 100 miles.
WulDon Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 Dundee & Angus Feds both got a bit of tanking y'day from Witton Castle from a 7am lib., although nothing near as bad as you lads... my heart goes out too all these fanciers counting the empty perches this morning. Something has to be done... i've suggested sunday yb racing at our agm but some fanciers look at you as if you were some kind of an idiot, prob the same lads that have lost all there birds and now complaining. I'm pretty sure race controllers must have known about the north road libs at berwick yesterday? it looks pretty much clashing did occur and the 'L' fed came off the worse, why not sit tight let the english go past then lib about 1100-1200 o'clock? play safe... Did the controllers know? if not why cant the SHU and RPRA issue all libs that are taking place at the weeks ends on there website, with contact numbers that controllers can use? Once the birds are up race controllers dont suddenly become air traffic controllers, our feathered friends are then in the 'hands of the gods', but lets at least make there job a wee bit easier by applying a bit more common sense when liberating past 100 miles, more so with young birds... old birds will generally correct them selves if getting tangled up and returns are usually quite acceptable. What has happened yesterday cant be shrugged off as being 'doo racing for ya', we need to be all singing from the same hymn sheet to prevent this type of racing happening, ye i agree we will always get a dodgy race here n there but if the birds get a chance to work to bring returns up to an acceptable level then that is 'doo racing for ya'... Lets hope we get a good weeks weather with nice south winds to let our birds work home, and lets not forget about this week end when the season closes, our perches are refilled then come the agm nobody seems to give a hoot.
harky Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 Seems to me the problem occurs once the pigeons get beyond the 120mile mark with english organisations above us .Lanarkshire fed should take the bull by the horns and go for a midweek race from this distance to avoid any clashing. I know there are fanciers working etc but the most important thing here is the pigeons must come first. start the youngbird racing earlier ,
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 Dundee & Angus Feds both got a bit of tanking y'day from Witton Castle from a 7am lib., although nothing near as bad as you lads... my heart goes out too all these fanciers counting the empty perches this morning. Something has to be done... i've suggested sunday yb racing at our agm but some fanciers look at you as if you were some kind of an idiot, prob the same lads that have lost all there birds and now complaining. I'm pretty sure race controllers must have known about the north road libs at berwick yesterday? it looks pretty much clashing did occur and the 'L' fed came off the worse, why not sit tight let the english go past then lib about 1100-1200 o'clock? play safe... Did the controllers know? if not why cant the SHU and RPRA issue all libs that are taking place at the weeks ends on there website, with contact numbers that controllers can use? Once the birds are up race controllers dont suddenly become air traffic controllers, our feathered friends are then in the 'hands of the gods', but lets at least make there job a wee bit easier by applying a bit more common sense when liberating past 100 miles, more so with young birds... old birds will generally correct them selves if getting tangled up and returns are usually quite acceptable. What has happened yesterday cant be shrugged off as being 'doo racing for ya', we need to be all singing from the same hymn sheet to prevent this type of racing happening, ye i agree we will always get a dodgy race here n there but if the birds get a chance to work to bring returns up to an acceptable level then that is 'doo racing for ya'... Lets hope we get a good weeks weather with nice south winds to let our birds work home, and lets not forget about this week end when the season closes, our perches are refilled then come the agm nobody seems to give a hoot. Many good points Willie especially "Quote"cant be shrugged off as being 'doo racing for ya
Delboy Posted August 23, 2009 Report Posted August 23, 2009 Dundee & Angus Feds both got a bit of tanking y'day from Witton Castle from a 7am lib., although nothing near as bad as you lads... my heart goes out too all these fanciers counting the empty perches this morning. Something has to be done... i've suggested sunday yb racing at our agm but some fanciers look at you as if you were some kind of an idiot, prob the same lads that have lost all there birds and now complaining. I'm pretty sure race controllers must have known about the north road libs at berwick yesterday? it looks pretty much clashing did occur and the 'L' fed came off the worse, why not sit tight let the english go past then lib about 1100-1200 o'clock? play safe... Did the controllers know? if not why cant the SHU and RPRA issue all libs that are taking place at the weeks ends on there website, with contact numbers that controllers can use? Once the birds are up race controllers dont suddenly become air traffic controllers, our feathered friends are then in the 'hands of the gods', but lets at least make there job a wee bit easier by applying a bit more common sense when liberating past 100 miles, more so with young birds... old birds will generally correct them selves if getting tangled up and returns are usually quite acceptable. What has happened yesterday cant be shrugged off as being 'doo racing for ya', we need to be all singing from the same hymn sheet to prevent this type of racing happening, ye i agree we will always get a dodgy race here n there but if the birds get a chance to work to bring returns up to an acceptable level then that is 'doo racing for ya'... Lets hope we get a good weeks weather with nice south winds to let our birds work home, and lets not forget about this week end when the season closes, our perches are refilled then come the agm nobody seems to give a hoot. Exactly how I think Willie, we should be addressing these problems NOW when its fresh in our minds.As Ive said before, there should be a RACE CONTROLLERS WEB SITE, where everyone has to show there intentions re.liberation times etc. COMMUNICATION is the key and without it we will always have yb disasters as we experienced this weekend.
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