The minority given the majority vote

[REDCHEQHEN]

As has happened in our fed - 4 smaller clubs with fewer members have voted for something that the other 3 clubs do not want - if it went on number of members however this would have been 50 against and 30 for. Why then should the minority have the deciding vote? (The smaller clubs would not allow a head count because it is not in the fed rules - but it is not in the fed rules that you cannot either - also these clubs have short memories as they are voting for something they had 2 years ago - then didn't want last year !!)

 

The floor is open............(evil)

[OLDYELLOW]

As has happened in our fed - 4 smaller clubs with fewer members have voted for something that the other 3 clubs do not want - if it went on number of members however this would have been 50 against and 30 for. Why then should the minority have the deciding vote? (The smaller clubs would not allow a head count because it is not in the fed rules - but it is not in the fed rules that you cannot either - also these clubs have short memories as they are voting for something they had 2 years ago - then didn't want last year !!)

 

The floor is open............(evil)

 

2 years ago they thought they could gain advantage seems they dint so changed it back i think all votes should be done by each member  then the sec / fed deligates takes the number of votes to fed the fed president should then decide by all votes cast which way to go very democratic , this aint the way it goes but would be an ideal imo

[blaz]

a vote like this should have been voted on at your AGM then all members who attend get a VOTE

[friendsloft]

Know where redcheqhen is comming from, as for voting at agm it is only the fed deligates from individual clubs can vote, they vote the way their club members tell them too, you could fill a fed agm with as many members as you want, but it is only the deigates which can vote, everyone else are there as spectators, yes they can ask questions but cannot vote

Ken

[REDCHEQHEN]

Know where redcheqhen is comming from, as for voting at agm it is only the fed deligates from individual clubs can vote, they vote the way their club members tell them too, you could fill a fed agm with as many members as you want, but it is only the deigates which can vote, everyone else are there as spectators, yes they can ask questions but cannot vote

Ken

 

This is very true Ken, individual members cannot actually speak only listen, and only the fed delegate from each club is allowed to vote according to their club members wishes

[blaz]

my club AGM we where told to go to our fed  AGM if we wanted to vote on some things never been to one so was only going by what was said at our AGM.

[THE FIFER]

if it was a general meeting, its a members vote, if its a delegates meeting then it would be delegates, but how many delegates a club has should go by the size of the club, Ie 1 delegate per 12 members etc,

[friendsloft]

In our federation no mater how small or how big the club each is allowed 2 deligates, and even this is hard to get

Ken

[Tony C]

The way we vote is outdated from fed level right to the top. The way we vote now was brought in when the favoured mode of transport was horse and carriage. Delegates were chosen simply because it was nigh impossible for the rank and file to get to meetings miles away. Motorways and cars have since been invented ;D along with a decent postal service and dare I say it the www. Why each individual cant have a postal vote or vote via email I don’t know............... well I do know!

[naedoos]

As has happened in our fed - 4 smaller clubs with fewer members have voted for something that the other 3 clubs do not want - if it went on number of members however this would have been 50 against and 30 for. Why then should the minority have the deciding vote? (The smaller clubs would not allow a head count because it is not in the fed rules - but it is not in the fed rules that you cannot either - also these clubs have short memories as they are voting for something they had 2 years ago - then didn't want last year !!)

 

The floor is open............(evil)

 

All important decisions should be made at the AGM to make it a fair decision (at least those that attend have a say) Get your proposal in and get it on the agenda  

[Guest]

 

All important decisions should be made at the AGM to make it a fair decision (at least those that attend have a say) Get your proposal in and get it on the agenda  

 

Like you did ;D ;D ;D ;D

[frank-123]

if it was a general meeting, its a members vote, if its a delegates meeting then it would be delegates, but how many delegates a club has should go by the size of the club, Ie 1 delegate per 12 members etc,

 

what about the size of feds 480 lanarkshire members three delegates west of scotland fed 25 members how many delegates???

[naedoos]

 

Like you did ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

aye well, except oor fed ;D ;D ;D

[dwh]

As has happened in our fed - 4 smaller clubs with fewer members have voted for something that the other 3 clubs do not want - if it went on number of members however this would have been 50 against and 30 for. Why then should the minority have the deciding vote? (The smaller clubs would not allow a head count because it is not in the fed rules - but it is not in the fed rules that you cannot either - also these clubs have short memories as they are voting for something they had 2 years ago - then didn't want last year !!)

 

The floor is open............(evil)

try flying in our fed we the biggest club and have least say when put our point we accussed of bully tactics thought it was just us apparently not

 

 

[dwh]

 

2 years ago they thought they could gain advantage seems they dint so changed it back i think all votes should be done by each member  then the sec / fed deligates takes the number of votes to fed the fed president should then decide by all votes cast which way to go very democratic , this aint the way it goes but would be an ideal imo

 

tried that one m8 2or 3 times every time we try out go the toys and the chair n sec threaten to resign then the cave in

[Guest stevie-b]

aboot time to practise what wee preach?

[dwh]

aboot time to practise what wee preach?

 

can you broaden your answer

[PIGEON_MAN]

To me it doesnt matter how big each club is they should all have the same voting power at a fed meeting,the way our fed does it is 2 members per club only can vote,I can see that a big club might say this is unfair but then if they had more votes then you would possibly see the 1 club ruling the fed to their advantage so unless you let every member of the fed vote then I think this is the next best way.

[dwh]

so the 1 club whch carries more members than rest of club has to be ditctated to by the minority the problem is men shud vote how they say they gonna vote other clubs are agreeing  with your proposals even hoping they go thru then voting the other way in meeting more faces than a town clock

[Guest stevie-b]

tghe sport getting worse our fed had a race programme meeting this year decided by a democratic vote were we were going because individuals who couldna be bathered turning up got a petition to have another meeting got there meeting in programme stayed the same?

[dwh]

tghe sport getting worse our fed had a race programme meeting this year decided by a democratic vote were we were going because individuals who couldna be bathered turning up got a petition to have another meeting got there meeting in programme stayed the same?

 

our agm proposals were going thru  till el pres.& sec threatened to quit so they all changed there minds

[dwh]

tghe sport getting worse our fed had a race programme meeting this year decided by a democratic vote were we were going because individuals who couldna be bathered turning up got a petition to have another meeting got there meeting in programme stayed the same?

 

our agm proposals were going thru  till el pres.& sec threatened to quit so they all changed there minds

[Roland]

Know where redcheqhen is comming from, as for voting at agm it is only the fed deligates from individual clubs can vote, they vote the way their club members tell them too, you could fill a fed agm with as many members as you want, but it is only the deigates which can vote, everyone else are there as spectators, yes they can ask questions but cannot vote

Ken

 

Don't think that is strictly true.

Yes most Fed meetings means anyone can go, voice an oppinion etc. but only the Delegates can vote. Then there are 'Meets' called for where everyone present can vote, Ie. our last one was for support in leveling everyone to pay £40 for a new transporter. This got through on a 2 - 1 vote.

Then any thing proposed 2 weeks before the A.G.M. is and can be voiced and voted on by any and every Member there.

Further it is after everyone has had their say / vote etc. and elected a new comittee or retained theold one etc. etc.

These are then of course head votes. I believe I am right, and certainly 95% right.

 

[naedoos]

Every Fed member has the right to vote after all that's what you pay your fee's for.

[dwh]

 

Don't think that is strictly true.

Yes most Fed meetings means anyone can go, voice an oppinion etc. but only the Delegates can vote. Then there are 'Meets' called for where everyone present can vote, Ie. our last one was for support in leveling everyone to pay £40 for a new transporter. This got through on a 2 - 1 vote.

Then any thing proposed 2 weeks before the A.G.M. is and can be voiced and voted on by any and every Member there.

Further it is after everyone has had their say / vote etc. and elected a new comittee or retained theold one etc. etc.

These are then of course head votes. I believe I am right, and certainly 95% right.

 

you were'nt there the propoasals were intrinsincly the same  1 proposal started the rant and it snowballed  in fact 1 delegate was tht insulted by the remarks he resigned thats when chaos reigned