dwh Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Is a medication regimen essential in modern day pigeon racingOr can you race and win without it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWa Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Is a medication regimen essential in modern day pigeon racingOr can you race and win without it? no deff not some fanciers only inject for parra as required by defraif a birds not right and doesn't recover itself its removed good healthy birds with a strong natural immunity davya lot of older fanciers race this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chad3646 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 no deff not some fanciers only inject for parra as required by defraif a birds not right and doesn't recover itself its removed good healthy birds with a strong natural immunity davya lot of older fanciers race this way with all the stuff that is getting pumped into them yes i would say it is essential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
square_peg Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 what ever happened to natural immunity ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 what ever happened to natural immunity ?????Natural immunity can be short or long lived depending on outside influences ie type of antigen,amount of antigen and the way it attacks the body,plus the way bodies immune system deals with the attack so Nat. Immunity varies from pigeon to pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Natural immunity can be short or long lived depending on outside influences ie type of antigen,amount of antigen and the way it attacks the body,plus the way bodies immune system deals with the attack so Nat. Immunity varies from pigeon to pigeon.I dont think you need a medication programe!!! to me thats all wrong but you do need to be on top of everything to win and if theres a problem the quicker its sorted the better the results . Some folk couldnt see a problem in there birds if it slapped them in the puss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I dont think you need a medication programe!!! to me thats all wrong but you do need to be on top of everything to win and if theres a problem the quicker its sorted the better the results . Some folk couldnt see a problem in there birds if it slapped them in the pussSo Rob are you saying you should test every time. Before you treat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 You can win and be competitive without propping them up with meds. Papering over the cracks isn't the right way of building a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Natural immunity can be short or long lived depending on outside influences ie type of antigen,amount of antigen and the way it attacks the body,plus the way bodies immune system deals with the attack so Nat. Immunity varies from pigeon to pigeon. I agree it does vary , yet its those that show no sign at all , when others may ,,,"those are the ones I want" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 So Rob are you saying you should test every time. Before you treat?i have microscope and easy to check birds each week of racing season looking at cankers worms etc but also high cocci levels which normaly sujest somthing else not right so would then take it further if needed . But no why would you treat for somthing you dont have . Does the doc give you erythromycin incase you get chest infection even if you have nowt wrong . Chances are when sommit is wrong the meds wont work would be the same with birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 The idea that pigeons have to receive regular doses of medication only tells you one thing. The birds are badly managed. If they are housed in a well designed loft that was built with pigeons in mind and not for humans they will be at an advantage straight away. Then the pigeons have to be correctly fed and not stuffed with high protein food throughout the year in such a way that they become overweight just like pampered pets. Another huge step forward is when the pigeons are given access to direct sunshine and an abundance of fresh air. They also benefit from grit, clay blocks and minerals fed fresh every day rather than what is often left in the corner of the loft to become dirty with dust.The only real threat to pigeon's health is paramixovirus which must be vaccinated for and worms which although not a big threat are always likely to be picked up from birds in the race panniers.I would never dream of using antibiotics with my pigeons but I know there are plenty of people using them regularly. The only thing that you get from antibiotics is a serious yeast infection and a compromised immunity. I think there are people out there who are so desperate to win pigeon races that they will dose their birds with anything if they think it might help. In reality pigeons need to achieve top condition and become very fit to win regularly and there is no way that can be achieved from a bottle or a packet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood red Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Is a medication regimen essential in modern day pigeon racingOr can you race and win without it?Buy this vid Lupino, (barcelona a different way)that will put you on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strapper Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 i use medications but only when needed ,if you are like some believe something can make a bird fly faster then your going down the wrong road..a pigeon cannot fly faster then its dna will allow it too.medications over the years, have got a very bad name in racing, but a bullet needs a gun to fire it!medications dont ruin pigeons fanciers do !i have not had youngbird sickness for a few years,dont ask me why...id like to find out myself lol.maybe its the way i talk to the birds lol..or could be the steps i take soon as the youngbirds are coming in and out of the loft.1 tea spoon of bleach in water...not anymore than that! for just 1 day, at the start of the week, i want clear water on thursday and basketing day usually friday.every clean out, i use a small garden sprayer with diluted bleach in it..every perch gets a light spray after scraped.the floor gets the same.i have a small cabinet of meds (only a selected few).some are renewed every year depending what the expiry date is...why take a chance on out of date meds , if you have a problem in the loft it needs treating as soon as possible..unless its in date you might as well be giving them water...if its no use to the birds then its no use to you. im a strong believer in fresh garlic cloves in the water(not combined with bleach) meds are not the answer to success in racing hard work is..meds are there to treat your birds not to make you win races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I have tried the treatment thing when they get sick ,you might get them over it but as sure as anything they are the ones that get lost first even from tossin ,a built in abitlity to throw of infections is what i will aim for.I think the normal treatment for worms ,kancker, cocci is a must other than that no . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 I dont think you need a medication programe!!! to me thats all wrong but you do need to be on top of everything to win and if theres a problem the quicker its sorted the better the results . Some folk couldnt see a problem in there birds if it slapped them in the pussbang on rab and thats part of the problem they keep traning and racing them then we all get problems m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 i use medications but only when needed ,if you are like some believe something can make a bird fly faster then your going down the wrong road..a pigeon cannot fly faster then its dna will allow it too.medications over the years, have got a very bad name in racing, but a bullet needs a gun to fire it!medications dont ruin pigeons fanciers do !i have not had youngbird sickness for a few years,dont ask me why...id like to find out myself lol.maybe its the way i talk to the birds lol..or could be the steps i take soon as the youngbirds are coming in and out of the loft.1 tea spoon of bleach in water...not anymore than that! for just 1 day, at the start of the week, i want clear water on thursday and basketing day usually friday.every clean out, i use a small garden sprayer with diluted bleach in it..every perch gets a light spray after scraped.the floor gets the same.i have a small cabinet of meds (only a selected few).some are renewed every year depending what the expiry date is...why take a chance on out of date meds , if you have a problem in the loft it needs treating as soon as possible..unless its in date you might as well be giving them water...if its no use to the birds then its no use to you. im a strong believer in fresh garlic cloves in the water(not combined with bleach) meds are not the answer to success in racing hard work is..meds are there to treat your birds not to make you win races.must agree with you there strapper nothing will make them faster but illness will deff make them slower m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Reid Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Is a medication regimen essential in modern day pigeon racingOr can you race and win without it? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Reid Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I dont think you need a medication programe!!! to me thats all wrong but you do need to be on top of everything to win and if theres a problem the quicker its sorted the better the results . Some folk couldnt see a problem in there birds if it slapped them in the puss These people continue to race them then blame everyone but themselves for poor returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 yer damed if you do and damed if you dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.