andy Burgess Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 reading through Walter,s posts about breeding etc .he has mentioned he "bought from Masarella,s " I would like to know why he chose this stud as the place to go ??
Delboy Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Your taking the pi ss expletive remove lol
VMS Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Aye gie Walter piece expletive remove :lol:
andy Burgess Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Posted October 26, 2013 Aye gie Walter piece expletive remove :lol: he had a choice Vinnie ,this or the Bingo
dava Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Your taking the pi ss expletive remove lolfkn pmsl
sammy Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Your taking the pi ss expletive remove lol :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0137-clapping:
billt Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 I seem to have missed the joke on this one but I'm guessing that Walter purchased from Louella because they have the clout to buy the very best and keep and breed in conditions that most of us could only dream about
tiger Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 I seem to have missed the joke on this one but I'm guessing that Walter purchased from Louella because they have the clout to buy the very best and keep and breed in conditions that most of us could only dream about :emoticon-0137-clapping:
Delboy Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 :emoticon-0137-clapping: That's it fked, Tigers agreeing lol.
walterboswell59 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 first and foremost its the way louella was breeding the jan aardens that i liked i allways liked inbred pigeons for breeding and louella pair them the same way i would andy champions to there sires dams bro and sisters daughters and sons i had bought six of the 120 pound yb for racing and flew well and had two firsts out the six and had 5 left the next year i bought 24 for racing no peds just jan aardens it was our fed centenary that year and all section winners got a silver medal i was 1st sect 3rd open with a louella aarden and as i had won with there birds the past 3 years gave them a call to let them know the birds were winning for me as i would if it had been anyone else that bred them credit where its due and it just so happend to be michael masserella that picked up the phone i had never spoke to him before it was always keith or an odd time john whom i always found helpfull and id heard a lot of other guys running louella down anyway i told michael that the birds id been buying the past 3 or 4 years had been winning well for me and was just calling to tell them so i told him id just been 1st sect 3rd open 6500 pigeons with one he was over the moon and asked if he could print that in his next advertisment of course i said you bred it he told me i was one of very few that botherd to let them know there birds had won and that when the fanciars buy them there there birds and very few gave the stud the credit for breeding them i told michael i was in business myself and id want people to let me know if my product was good he said i cant garentee that all the birds i sell are good birds but i can garentee that they have the blood of good birds in them i agreed and told him id phone him after the racing every year and let him know how the birds were doing result wise 3 weeks later i decided to move up the ladder a bit and buy a stock cock that was closer to the champions ilooked at the birds louella had in bhw that week and gave them a call it was michael again its mr boswell i said id like to buy a stock cock to go with the hen that won the section for me and i liked a few in the homing world but there a bit out my price range michael said he would recomend lot 4 a blue pied cock a dbl grandson of smarged one and vlekje yes i liked the look of that one but its 500 pounds ive only got 250 to spend just now thats ok he said its yours hes a nice pigeon with fantastic breeding i hand picked him myself that i showed the bird to my m8 billy 99 who said f k hes built like rambo and thats what i call him he has bred 8 firsts club 5 1st sections fed and i timed a son off him scoring in newbury national and he homed from clermont ripped to shreds this year anyway this was the start of my friendship with louella and michael i would call him and let him know how i was doing and wee would talk away all the time i was speaking to him i was asking about the breeding side of things he said his father told him never breed away from the good pigeon allways breed back to it untill you see weakness or there not doing the job then and only then bring in another inbred champion to cross this was the kind of thing i wanted to know i asked about eyesign he told me after handling and buying some of the best birds in europe and the birds that bred them he thought he would be seeing a pattern with the eyes but he never did so whats it all about then i said is there nothing in it ive seen champions bred from every kind of eye you have seen and now believe its just a family trayt same with handling sprint birds the jannsen family have what wee like to call good eyes and are nice in the hand some of the distance families are very disapointing in the hand and the aardens can be like that i know i said ive a loft of ugly buggers but can they fly he said thats the difference some of the uglyest birds ive seen and owned have been the best racers so that does not help when your trying to sell them everyone wants a winner with a good eye that handles great and a ped the lenth of your arm full of winners and thats what i try to breed but you still get wee ugly buggers and there usually the best i still talk to him when he has time and still learn a bit from him but at the end of the day hes a business man running 3 or 4 different things so i dont get to have a blether with him as offten as id like but he always takes time to get back to me if i call and the birds he personally looks out for me along with the birds he giffted me are breeding the goods so i have nothing but thanks for michael and louella and would advise any novice to save and buy the 10 latebred deal at the end of the year and fill your loft with yb off them and when you get a winner stop it and put it in the stock loft with the jan aardens the breeding side has all been done for you breeding dbl grand children off one champion to the dbl grand children of another champion is the best you can get and not costing an arm and leg works out about 300 pounds for 10 yb that will found a loft if looked after and dont worry if there ugly they can race like f k imo and thats what we want at the end of the day if there pretty thats a bonus this is what i would do if starting up again or if the birds i had were not winning andi knew i was working them
andy Burgess Posted October 26, 2013 Author Report Posted October 26, 2013 brilliant Walter ,again full of guidance for a novice .tips galore and nice to hear an honest reply with detail from Massarela,s too
walterboswell59 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 :emoticon-0137-clapping:got it in one tiger what i find is guys that have champion birds dont want to sell them and i dont blame them any bird you want at louella is for sale at a price and they need you to win with there birds or they dont sell and will go out of business and they have been doing it for years so plenty must be winning with them apart from me or they would be out the game imo ive heard the bad stories to but every business has stories of people not happy you cant please every one always someone not happy with something just have a look on here at the moaning lol there was a good example the other day on here when a guy was on about louella saying it would cost 75 pound to have birds del to aberdeen and where i agree the couriers rip us off that must be a 12 or 14 hour round trip from leicester it would cost about 50 pound on fuel on a moped lol so the guys driving for 12 or more hours for 25 pound and our scottish guys charge 30 to 40 pounds from edinburgh to hamiton but thats not louellas fault imo
MIK Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Walter i have 2004 cock here i gave louella £300 for in 2005. He is a Gson of "de Barcleona" x "Lady Wegan" and "Schlangen barcelona" x "Zuster Shlangen" he bred my only french winner to date ..top 200 nipa 2500 birds and she flew it a second time out of race time. i stocked her and she has bred winners for me and others out to 340 miles,,, dam and Gdam.gdam being from inbred sons and dtrs.
walterboswell59 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 Walter i have 2004 cock here i gave louella £300 for in 2005. He is a Gson of "de Barcleona" x "Lady Wegan" and "Schlangen barcelona" x "Zuster Shlangen" he bred my only french winner to date ..top 200 nipa 2500 birds and she flew it a second time out of race time. i stocked her and she has bred winners for me and others out to 340 miles,,, dam and Gdam.gdam being from inbred sons and dtrs.im winning with those very same lines mick zuster shlangen is lady wegans dam lady wegan bred 2 firsts and a 2nd national winners and is the dam of one of my old cocks when paired to her sire debarcelona bred some great birds for me m8 gave billy his half brother still filling eggs at 17 years old good luck with them mick there good birds m8
MIK Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 im winning with those very same lines mick zuster shlangen is lady wegans dam lady wegan bred 2 firsts and a 2nd national winners and is the dam of one of my old cocks when paired to her sire debarcelona bred some great birds for me m8 gave billy his half brother still filling eggs at 17 years old good luck with them mick there good birds m8 if billy fell into a bucket of chit he would come smellin of roses :emoticon-0136-giggle: im happy they doing well for you....and it seems ur honesty with Michael has struck a good friendship. thanks for your honest and thorough input to these questions Andy has put forward. No stone unturned. Mick
walterboswell59 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 brilliant Walter ,again full of guidance for a novice .tips galore and nice to hear an honest reply with detail from Massarela,s too the mans good to me andy there birds win thats all im interested in m8 payed plenty from others and done f all with them i get on well with him he even gave me a bird for our fed sale that made good money a nice man imo
walterboswell59 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 if billy fell into a bucket of chit he would come smellin of roses :emoticon-0136-giggle: im happy they doing well for you....and it seems ur honesty with Michael has struck a good friendship. thanks for your honest and thorough input to these questions Andy has put forward. No stone unturned. Micknothing to hide and nothing to gain but ill stick up for any nice guy there getting few and far between now days mick he allways goes out his way for me and its nice to be nice but thanks for that pal glad to give a wee insight from his side and a man you can learn from
MIK Posted October 26, 2013 Report Posted October 26, 2013 nothing to hide and nothing to gain but ill stick up for any nice guy there getting few and far between now days mick he allways goes out his way for me and its nice to be nice but thanks for that pal glad to give a wee insight from his side and a man you can learn from Walter i wasnt puttin Billy down...it was a wee joke Mick
walterboswell59 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 Walter i wasnt puttin Billy down...it was a wee joke Micki know that mick i was talking about michael lol
MIK Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 i know that mick i was talking about michael lol oops :emoticon-0136-giggle:
William Reid Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 oops :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:
MIK Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 :emoticon-0136-giggle: away wit ursel ye Billy :lol:
tiger Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0137-clapping:
tiger Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 That's it fked, Tigers agreeing lol.naw just you I disagree with, ps its time you put a letter into Glasgow fed AGAIN opps before you waste ur TIME your not getting IN
Delboy Posted October 27, 2013 Report Posted October 27, 2013 naw just you I disagree with, ps its time you put a letter into Glasgow fed AGAIN opps before you waste ur TIME your not getting IN Sums the doo game up this statement
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