Snfc

[VMS]

Simple IMO for this race there should be no open positions and the prize money split into the sectional prizes

[clockman]

[sapper756]

Good luck to all Basics members sending :scotland:

[We man]

Sending 8-12 will decide tonight.

340mls

Good luck to all who send

Good luck to you boys up North,another race for you all after the sprinters are timed in,

RESPECT you all and your birds.

[BLACK W F]

how many went from the north

[Williedoo]

how many went from the north

115

[geordie1234]

Good luck to everyone especially the guys up north

[JohnQuinn]

I agree John, but what race is fair???? The sooner this issue of fairness is sorted, the better. Then we would see who the real doomen are and not ones getting a penalty kick in every race. No need for sections, pooling against everybody in the race. Imagine that, yer doo winning £1000s. Ye would get a shock at the amount of good performance pigeons in section F, if a formula was put in place to even things up.

 

Ypres is the fairest race point we have on the programme, yb's canny go there so IMO the ONLY solution is split libs. How UNFAIR this race is is way beyond the normal lack pf parity in club and Fed racing. The Open positions bear out my views that on any "normal" racing day the opportunity afforded to some sections to win an Open prize is at best meagre and more often than not, Non Existant.

[BLACK W F]

Ypres is the fairest race point we have on the programme, yb's canny go there so IMO the ONLY solution is split libs. How UNFAIR this race is is way beyond the normal lack pf parity in club and Fed racing. The Open positions bear out my views that on any "normal" racing day the opportunity afforded to some sections to win an Open prize is at best meagre and more often than not, Non Existant.

John look at the distance the north get from Forfar Edinburgh ect who yer trying to kid

[JohnQuinn]

John look at the distance the north get from Forfar Edinburgh ect who yer trying to kid

 

If ye read what I wrote Alan you will see I have not singled out any section as being more disadvantaged than others. I think a split lib would do ALL birds in yhe race a fair crack at Firstly getting home and Possibly actually Win something in the Open too. I don't wear blinkers when I speak or write about this particular race. IMO if someone wanted to accuse us as fanciers of cruelty to our birds they need look no further than the YBN. JMO

[BLACK W F]

john I commented on your take on YPRES if you try sect libs then it aint a national put if you want don't if yer don't simple no one forces any one to send down to their choice

[BLACK W F]

115

that's a very good birdage considering the forecast

[Williedoo]

that's a very good birdage considering the forecast

One fancier from Wick has birds away.

[clockman]

One fancier from Wick has birds away.

 

 

Thats 4 of us now,

[yeboah]

Anyone reading my posts with regards to the SNFC will know i am a staunch supporter of the club, and defender of the committee, however i haven't been to the Yb national since 2004 and i won't be going again until some form of parity is put in place for the whole convoy. In other words a split lib. I do not go along with a breakaway club/organisation solution, though i know Plenty West section men who would jump at it.

In the 2004 race i sent 6 pigeons, 2 x 1st a 3rd 4th and 5th club prize winners and a Ck who was my pick of the team that season but hadn't won anything. I got that Ck about 8.10am next morning and never seen another feather to this day, that is basically how this race pans out for Most fanciers around here. Until that is sorted i'm afraid my Yb's will stay in the loft come YBN time.

That's why you are president of the largest federation John ,Always common sence posts or in other words the truth as it is Well Done

[JohnQuinn]

john I commented on your take on YPRES if you try sect libs then it aint a national put if you want don't if yer don't simple no one forces any one to send down to their choice

 

Ypres is an O/B race Alan and has no resemblance to the Ybn. Imo it is the fairest race and the results of doos in all sections is better than that from the other (french) race points on the programme.

I made my choice in 2004 which is Not to enter the YBN, if I had NO CHANCE of winning from the O/B nationals, like I have NO CHANCE of winning this race, then I wouldn't send to them either.

What's the point in entering into any competition if you Cannot win it regardless of how good you or your birds are?? Not to mention losing the best Yb's you have in your loft as well. Madness comes to mind.

[TheHigg]

Thats 4 of us now,

make that 5 including me haha 3 away for the 247 mile jaunt totaly agree with john quinn this is my 5th attempt at the ybn never had a bird on the shift yet i can make the result from the channel races i keep telling myself i wont be going this year but it falls on deaf ears :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[rembrant2coo]

make that 5 including me haha 3 away for the 247 mile jaunt totaly agree with john quinn this is my 5th attempt at the ybn never had a bird on the shift yet i can make the result from the channel races i keep telling myself i wont be going this year but it falls on deaf ears :emoticon-0140-rofl:

 

WELL DONE THAT MAN , NOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO KEEP TO THE ORIGINAL POST BY CLOCKIE , INSTEAD OFF BEING OFF TOPIC

[clockman]

make that 5 including me haha 3 away for the 247 mile jaunt totaly agree with john quinn this is my 5th attempt at the ybn never had a bird on the shift yet i can make the result from the channel races i keep telling myself i wont be going this year but it falls on deaf ears

 

 

gave up to many hijackers

[jim cowie]

Ypres is an O/B race Alan and has no resemblance to the Ybn. Imo it is the fairest race and the results of doos in all sections is better than that from the other (french) race points on the programme.

I made my choice in 2004 which is Not to enter the YBN, if I had NO CHANCE of winning from the O/B nationals, like I have NO CHANCE of winning this race, then I wouldn't send to them either.

What's the point in entering into any competition if you Cannot win it regardless of how good you or your birds are?? Not to mention losing the best Yb's you have in your loft as well. Madness comes to mind.

 

If the north guys had that attitude John they'd never send to any national. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

[BLACK W F]

One fancier from Wick has birds away.

best of luck to him Willie but I doubt they will get a race week end and Monday look dire

[BLACK W F]

John you said and I quote YPRES is the fairest race point I say load of bollocks

 

If the north guys had that attitude John

they'd never send to any national.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

think you summed it up James

[JohnQuinn]

If the north guys had that attitude John

they'd never send to any national.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

 

Sour grapes?? I don't associate with that emotion, I say what I see and have a balanced view on most if not all topics. I would like to see this particular race adjusted to enable as many doos as possible to make it home, I send to Every channel race that I have birds ready for and hope to win one some day. One thing I do know is the history of the YBN and to my knowledge it hasnn't been won in certain sections EVER!! there lies the problem for me and Very many other fanciers who are far more able pigeon men than me, yet they don't send either.

[harky]

A sent them all .lol Your right in what your saying John this is a come back race for certain sections.

[JohnQuinn]

A sent them all .lol Your right in what your saying John this is a come back race for certain sections.

 

You stop yer showing off lol .........

 

All the best Stuart hope ye get good returns and a good position to back up your excellent season in the club and Fed. John.