Changes, If Any, We Want In The Snfc ?

[alec guinness]

it's no going to change let's face it i've seen the same conversations the last three years

 

if members really want something done they need to stop sending im pretty sure something would be done quick style

I don't see this be all and end all about getting back together geo,in my immediate area there are plenty of fanciers that go to the SNRPC races that never sent to national races ever before so good luck to them and I think each to their own.

[geordie1234]

I don't see this be all and end all about getting back together geo,in my immediate area there are plenty of fanciers that go to the SNRPC races that never sent to national races ever before so good luck to them and I think each to their own.

I'm no talking about joining back together I'm talking about everything that everyone has a gripe about.

 

Has there been any real changes in the last few years except from the programme

[alec guinness]

I'm no talking about joining back together I'm talking about everything that everyone has a gripe about.

 

Has there been any real changes in the last few years except from the programme

Not really geo,a lot of good and bad ideas on this thread but over the years racing birds I have deduced that fanciers do not like change and most of the above has been discussed on this site previously,but as they say its good to talk.

[geordie1234]

Not really geo,a lot of good and bad ideas on this thread but over the years racing birds I have deduced that fanciers do not like change and most of the above has been discussed on this site previously,but as they say its good to talk.

WE WANT CHANGE AND WHEN DO WE WANT IT...NEVER LOL

[VMS]

So back to my question one national or two ?

Time we acomandated every one that wanted to compete,

[alec guinness]

WE WANT CHANGE AND WHEN DO WE WANT IT...NEVER LOL

Lets hope we can get a few wee changes for he better.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Don't know what happened in the past, but I think it is time to forgive and forget. The fancy needs unity, so in Scotland there should only be 1 National.

 

As a starting point both Nationals should agree to joint convoy, but with separate results, it makes sense, increased birdage and less requirement for English organisations to convoy our birds. The main concern for the English race controller is his birds which are in the majority, so at times this works against our birds, but we are powerless. At least with all Scottish birds going together the joint controllers have similar concerns.

 

A greater degree of flexibility is also required. I note that the SNRPC change their arrangements to suit the weather on occasions whereas the SNFC seem to have more holdovers, which apart from being expensive are not the best for the birds.

[peter2010]

When I first started with doos the guy that took me under his wing would tell me how good it was to send with the national and how it was a class above fed racing ie how they were looked after and the baskets they went in ie catteralls which was totally true and when I went to the marking this year now it a total joke at Newhouse there is birds going into baskets that are a total joke ielanarkshire fed burnt better that tells you how bad they are and how far behind the snfc is and if it doesn't improve the snrpc could really benefit and it will only be the snfc fault but this is only my opinion

[peter2010]

Don't know what happened in the past, but I think it is time to forgive and forget. The fancy needs unity, so in Scotland there should only be 1 National.

 

As a starting point both Nationals should agree to joint convoy, but with separate results, it makes sense, increased birdage and less requirement for English organisations to convoy our birds. The main concern for the English race controller is his birds which are in the majority, so at times this works against our birds, but we are powerless. At least with all Scottish birds going together the joint controllers have similar concerns.

 

A greater degree of flexibility is also required. I note that the SNRPC change their arrangements to suit the weather on occasions whereas the SNFC seem to have more holdovers, which apart from being expensive are not the best for the birds.

I don't like the idea of having a joint lib with the English unions but I could be wrong when I say this is , do there race controllers take into consideration the conditions from the midlands to Scotland before they make a decision on a lib

[just ask me]

I don't like the idea of having a joint lib with the English unions but I could be wrong when I say this is , do there race controllers take into consideration the conditions from the midlands to Scotland before they make a decision on a lib

 

 

i would imagine any good race controller would cater for all the birds on the lorry

[peter2010]

I would like to think so but do you honestly think he would hold the full convoy for a few hundred scottish birds.if the conditions didn't suit the scotish doos IMO I don't think they would bother for reason being could you imagine them saying sorry we did not lib as we didn't think it was clear enough for the scots doos that's why we need Togo on our own

[just ask me]

I would like to think so but do you honestly think he would hold the full convoy for a few hundred scottish birds.if the conditions didn't suit the scotish doos IMO I don't think they would bother for reason being could you imagine them saying sorry we did not lib as we didn't think it was clear enough for the scots doos that's why we need Togo on our own

 

 

in fairness racing mid and long distance on a lot of occasions the birds will hit bad weather somewhere on route with the weather we have in this part of the world

 

but i cant see any good race controller sending 100s of birds into weather which is impossible to fly in

 

joint convoying is done all over Europe these days as it boils down to money and it makes sense not to have 2 half filled lorries going to the one area

 

in the future this will have to happen a lot more as you only have to look at the average age of members in the sport

 

as the costs are high on long distance racing and it seems a lot of the younger generation are more sprint minded there will be no choice i believe that the only way long distance racing will be viable due to costs is that organisations convoy together

 

 

at the end of the day the most money possible should be going back to the fanciers not on fuel costs etc

 

 

 

 

also looking at the split i know very little about the split how it was caused or why it happened

 

 

but you only have to look at the north of Ireland they all flew together though the troubles and i believe if the pigeon game survived though all of that and is still going strong there is always hope that any split can be fixed