Clermont Marking

[AR]

Is marking for clermont 16 or the 17 as both dates are on the website

[JohnQuinn]

Tuesday for a Friday race. Tells ye on the info letter we get with our pool sheets etc. Cheers and atb when it comes mate.

[AR]

Thanks for that, I thought it was but I seen it on website under latest news and it says the 17th. I would hate for anyone to get caught out. All the best to yersel

[Bobby4]

Thanks for that, I thought it was but I seen it on website under latest news and it says the 17th. I would hate for anyone to get caught out. All the best to yersel

 

says in yearly nat book Wednesday 17th

[walterbmasson]

says in yearly nat book Wednesday 17th

This is been one of the best national races in previous years and also good birdage always been a wednesday race less time in basket , who is the bright spark that has changed it ta tuesday , also the birdage in baskets should be changed ta 16 cocks and 18 hens as its gan ta be cooking in the baskets we the forcast , the transporter is gan we empty spaces so where is the logic in cramping them in ta crates ???

 

 

[JohnQuinn]

This is been one of the best national races in previous years and also good birdage always been a wednesday race less time in basket , who is the bright spark that has changed it ta tuesday , also the birdage in baskets should be changed ta 16 cocks and 18 hens as its gan ta be cooking in the baskets we the forcast , the transporter is gan we empty spaces so where is the logic in cramping them in ta crates ???

 

 

 

For wance am on yer side way that wan Walter

 

If there are any SNFC committee men on maybe they could clear it up for us, but it defo says Tuesday for Friday on ma wee info letter. Or if anyone has the letter handy they can confirm the correct marking day, though am as sure as a can be it says Tuesday marking on it.

[Henrik]

Its Tues marking for a Friday race. It was changed Mr Masson at the AGM where all the bright sparks who wish to have a say in the running of the club get a chance to have there say, mibe see ya there next time eh, or mibe no

[JohnQuinn]

Anyway lets get back tae the race itself, anyone sending something they're gonna have a Punt on??

 

Am gonna take a chance way ma old 2008 hen who came out of stock loft retirement this year. She's still keen as mustard on her nest and flying well when out, so a might as well have a wee go as its the last chance saloon for a wee lift this year.

[hotrod]

For wance am on yer side way that wan Walter

 

If there are any SNFC committee men on maybe they could clear it up for us, but it defo says Tuesday for Friday on ma wee info letter. Or if anyone has the letter handy they can confirm the correct marking day, though am as sure as a can be it says Tuesday marking on it.

John if you can remember at the AGM , because of the cost of last years race ,2 transporters goin to race when 1 would have done ,they said it was because there wasn't enough time to sort baskets etc to send the one lorry and I'm sure it was said and agreed to go a day earlier to cut costs .

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Don't see why they just couldn't get a later ferry if they were to miss the boat they are booked on to, from Dover to calaise there ferrys every 2-3 hours. Or if need be then bring forward the marking of all the marking stations by a couple of hours. Better a few hours rather than 24 hours.

[Guest IB]

For wance am on yer side way that wan Walter

 

If there are any SNFC committee men on maybe they could clear it up for us, but it defo says Tuesday for Friday on ma wee info letter. Or if anyone has the letter handy they can confirm the correct marking day, though am as sure as a can be it says Tuesday marking on it.

 

Only picked this up today.

 

Deffo marking Tue 16th July for a Friday race.

 

The date was changed at a Committee Meeting. Mention was made at AGM that two transporters were sent to Clermont last year when only one was required as there was not enough time to tranship baskets. I'd brought that up at Committee Meeting with the suggestion that we should go on Channel Tunnel Rail Shuttle for that race to give us more time to get birds into one transporter, and get a bit of experience of using the Tunnel. Vote went the other way and basketing was brought forward one day.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Only picked this up today.

 

Deffo marking Tue 16th July for a Friday race.

 

The date was changed at a Committee Meeting. Mention was made at AGM that two transporters were sent to Clermont last year when only one was required as there was not enough time to tranship baskets. I'd brought that up at Committee Meeting with the suggestion that we should go on Channel Tunnel Rail Shuttle for that race to give us more time to get birds into one transporter, and get a bit of experience of using the Tunnel. Vote went the other way and basketing was brought forward one day.

Ian, the largest livestock vehicle that can use the channel tunnel is 5.5 tonne, that rules out the SNFC.

[Guest IB]

Ian, the largest livestock vehicle that can use the channel tunnel is 5.5 tonne, that rules out the SNFC.

 

I checked this out by email at the beginning of the year. I was specific on the range of vehicles that could be included. Here's my email and Channel Tunnel's reply:-

 

 

30 Jan 2013 at 15:57

 

RE: Racing Pigeon Transporters

Good Afternoon Ian,

 

Further to your enquiry to transport Race Pigeon's on our Freight Service, I can confirm that we will be to accept this for travel.

 

I have attached for your reference a disclaimer form, which you will need to complete and return to us via email prior to travel. In addition to this, can you also pre-advice the vehicle registration and the estimated date / time of travel.

We will need a copy of the document and the relevant information to ensure that all Operations teams can be advised of this transport before arrival.

The driver will also need a copy of this at the time of arrival, and please ensure that they have all the documents that you require to transport such animals.

Bookings can be made online at www.eurotunnelfreight.com .

 

All people travelling will be seated in a club car during transit. As the trains are open, it is not possible to remain with the vehicle for safety reasons. The crossing itself is 35 mins.

All bookings are valid on the booked departure date, and one day either side. You can arrive any time, and we operate 4-5 departures per hour. You will be allocated to the next available departure.

 

If you need any further assistance, then please do not hesitate to contact us.

 

Kind Regards,

Zishaun

Freight Commercial Department

Tel : 01303 282 244

Fax: 01303 283 500

 

 

 

________________________________________

From: IAN BROWN [mailto:ian.brown4429@btinternet.com]

Sent: 27 January 2013 19:00

To: Freight

Subject: Racing Pigeon Transporters

Hi,

 

I am exploring possibilities for our racing pigeon transporter trucks using Channel Tunnel Shuttle Services. Live racing pigeons would be conveyed on the outward journey to France , and empty pigeon baskets on the return.

 

The vehicle could be either a 7.5 tonnes rigid van, or an artic under 44 tonnes – just one vehicle per trip. The outward trip would be midweek with the return trip on Friday, Saturday or Sunday of the same week (depending on weather). The Driver would be accompanied by 2 assistants. There would be a maximum of 4 return journeys per year during June / July with the first outward journey June 27th or 28th and the last outward journey July 18th or 19th.

 

I know that you already carry pigeon transporters and would be pleased to know what conditions apply to their carriage. For example the assistants are there to attend to the birds’ welfare, are they allowed to remain in the truck during the rail journey? I would also like to know what flexibility is allowed in re-booking / ticketing for another train and / or day should the intended train be missed for whatever reason - are the trains open or fully reserved booking?

 

 

Please provide a copy of your timetable for the June / July period and fares.

 

Thank you,

 

Ian Brown

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Ian, Brilliant to know their policy has now changed, this can only be to the benefit of the national pigeons when used in the future, the flexibility and speed of the euro tunnel could easily have saved a day in the basket for the pigeons at Clermont.

[Delboy]

Interesting to find out its cheaper, faster and better in every way to travel through the Channel tunnel than the route we take at the moment. So, why don't we use this facility?

[ALF]

Interesting to find out its cheaper, faster and better in every way to travel through the Channel tunnel than the route we take at the moment. So, why don't we use this facility?

We are years behind the SNRPC again they have been going through the chunnel for a while now

[Guest bigda]

We are years behind the SNRPC again they have been going through the chunnel for a while now

 

 

years behind EH who would have though

[walterboswell59]

Anyway lets get back tae the race itself, anyone sending something they're gonna have a Punt on??

 

Am gonna take a chance way ma old 2008 hen who came out of stock loft retirement this year. She's still keen as mustard on her nest and flying well when out, so a might as well have a wee go as its the last chance saloon for a wee lift this year.

yes john im having a go sending 17 birds fancy 3 cheq hens 2nd bird newberry 2nd bird ypres and a hen that was 11 sect salsbrough that came at 10 20 in ypres all on there first youngster 3 to 5 days old but could time anyone of them all in great order and sitting right and i want to find out if they can do 500 miles into the west so hears hoping all the best to all that send looking forward to it

[hotrod]

Interesting to find out its cheaper, faster and better in every way to travel through the Channel tunnel than the route we take at the moment. So, why don't we use this facility?

Don't be daft del , expletive remove Geraldy. Transport. On offer Air conditioned perfect or this weather , travel through the Chunnel cut off a day , and yet the snfc still say NO , for this reason I'm out I'm not sending to clermont . It will be torture for the birds .

[Delboy]

Don't be daft del , expletive remove Geraldy. Transport. On offer Air conditioned perfect or this weather , travel through the Chunnel cut off a day , and yet the snfc still say NO , for this reason I'm out I'm not sending to clermont . It will be torture for the birds .

 

lol, get them away m8.Ye got that blue cock going for a silver?

[alec guinness]

Don't be daft del , expletive remove Geraldy. Transport. On offer Air conditioned perfect or this weather , travel through the Chunnel cut off a day , and yet the snfc still say NO , for this reason I'm out I'm not sending to clermont . It will be torture for the birds .

You canny not send because of the above m8,carlin bros,matt white,ken mackay,Alex stobo,Colin Renfrew etc,all these guys sent and won at 500 plus miles on lorries with wicker baskets!!! It's a long winter.

[Henrik]

Don't be daft del , expletive remove Geraldy. Transport. On offer Air conditioned perfect or this weather , travel through the Chunnel cut off a day , and yet the snfc still say NO , for this reason I'm out I'm not sending to clermont . It will be torture for the birds .

And if the fans fail theyll be sitting in a mobile greenhouse

[alec guinness]

yes john im having a go sending 17 birds fancy 3 cheq hens 2nd bird newberry 2nd bird ypres and a hen that was 11 sect salsbrough that came at 10 20 in ypres all on there first youngster 3 to 5 days old but could time anyone of them all in great order and sitting right and i want to find out if they can do 500 miles into the west so hears hoping all the best to all that send looking forward to it

That's a good team m8

[walterbmasson]

And if the fans fail theyll be sitting in a mobile greenhouse

 

Henrik the sad thing about this whoever decided ta add another day in the baskets to the convoy , were definately not thinking about the welfare of our birds, and should be ashamed of themselves , all ta save a few bob your some subtitutes of men theres hundred thousand pounds + in the bank USE IT ? Iam sure 90% of fanciers want ta see less time in baskets and liberated as early as possible before the oven gets ta the roasting stage and you call yer sels sportsmen i dont think so ?

[Williedoo]

Henrik the sad thing about this whoever decided ta add another day in the baskets to the convoy , were definately not thinking about the welfare of our birds, and should be ashamed of themselves , all ta save a few bob your some subtitutes of men theres hundred thousand pounds + in the bank USE IT ? Iam sure 90% of fanciers want ta see less time in baskets and liberated as early as possible before the oven gets ta the roasting stage and you call yer sels sportsmen i dont think so ?

Well this will be my last year doing the Aberdeen marking station, committee ect so you will just have to hope whoever takes it on does a better job than me.