Why Didnt They Make It ?

[andy Burgess]

whats everbody,s opinion why some made it home and many didnt last Saturday 1st of June .assuming some will say health ,if they were healthy ,why then ??

[geordie1234]

whats everbody,s opinion why some made it home and many didnt last Saturday 1st of June .assuming some will say health ,if they were healthy ,why then ??

Because the un healthy ones can turn batches causing doos not to clear and doos not clearing causes trouble in itself imo

[blue pied]

the ones that didnt come home arent healty or good enough

[andy Burgess]

the ones that didnt come home arent healty or good enough

read the first post

[dal2]

read the first post

Think the young man has summed it up pretty much for me Andy mate.

 

I lost a hen thats been over the water, but truth be told I had a fair incling she was crap. You know the type, couple of hours late most weeks, occasional night out, turns up about a week late??????

 

You should probably do something other than race this type every week but when yer soft like me ye dont!!!!! You eventually rid yuorself of the problem????

 

It was a tough day all round. Folk will look at K index, clashing etc but at the end of the day a nor west/east gave them a tough fly which in some way the did not, or could not face??

 

 

Of course the BOP would have had a dig at some!

[geordie1234]

I do believe doos good enough do 90% of the time make it back( apart from bop, wires etc). I saw a doo coming to a loft at half ten at night on Saturday flown right out but he worked it out a worked his balls off to get home. Maybe doos that don't have that sort of constitution or breeding in them just give in.

 

I lost 9 that day and my loft is a better loft for it imo

[andy Burgess]

Think the young man has summed it up pretty much for me Andy mate.

 

I lost a hen thats been over the water, but truth be told I had a fair incling she was crap. You know the type, couple of hours late most weeks, occasional night out, turns up about a week late??????

 

You should probably do something other than race this type every week but when yer soft like me ye dont!!!!! You eventually rid yuorself of the problem????

 

It was a tough day all round. Folk will look at K index, clashing etc but at the end of the day a nor west/east gave them a tough fly which in some way the did not, or could not face??

 

 

Of course the BOP would have had a dig at some!

i cant get my head round it ? 5 of the 6 still away have carded this year ,rarely late home .they all raced over 200 miles the week before ,9 of those sent in the first 16 of the club and first 36 of the fed .1 x 2yr old won cards as a yb ,many club and fed cards as a yearling ,and same again this year .oh and was 3rd club 5th fed from same race point and wind last year ?? doesnt add up. only 3rd season up here , much more of this and i shall be looking for canaries

[blaz]

i am down 8 birds to say not healthy our good enough not for me .their has to be other reasons clashing the K index bops our something. i have never dropped so many birds at a race not even marlborough nat 2 years back and that was a very hard race.

[geordie1234]

Andy not saying your doos that are missing but bad doos cant get cards too

[andy Burgess]

i am down 8 birds to say not healthy our good enough not for me .their has to be other reasons clashing the K index bops our something. i have never dropped so many birds at a race not even marlborough nat 2 years back and that was a very hard race.

same here Blaz, ive looked at myself ,and the birds ,and its neither .still fairly new to it all , and if i dont ask the questions,how will i learn ?? or how can i avoid what ever it was ??

[andy Burgess]

Andy not saying your doos that are missing but bad doos cant get cards too

yes i know that Geo , theres one here that that won 2 weeks ago ,total fluke .some of the others gone have handfulls of cards

[blaz]

Andy not saying your doos that are missing but bad doos cant get cards too

 

just had a rough count theirs 7x1st clubs plus multi other club cards 6 of them all have fed tickets with a 1st open winner also and 2 with inland nat tickets.

[andy Burgess]

just had a rough count theirs 7x1st clubs plus multi other club cards 6 of them all have fed tickets with a 1st open winner also and 2 with inland nat tickets.

exactly ,its not the doo,s or the fancier . so what is it ??

[blackdog]

exactly ,its not the doo,s or the fancier . so what is it ??

 

i think it was the weather andy, i looked at the sky on saturday morning and said to myself, i bet they get a bad race today, sun and moon out together all day.

[geordie1234]

The only thing that is on the rise really is bop with racing getting worse each year.

Couple that with bad health and people molly coddling pigeons then breeding from them ye have a recipe for disaster.

 

Say 10% of the birdage was not fit enough or unhealthy those doos can turn and keep turning full batches which causes problems and yeah good doos do get lost. People lost doos that have won the national. I'm afraid its part of the doo game. The old saying when they are in the sky they are not yours.

[andy Burgess]

i think it was the weather andy, i looked at the sky on saturday morning and said to myself, i bet they get a bad race today, sun and moon out together all day.

i can understand , and have heard that theory before Kieth .i wasnt aware of it here (not visible to me) .even when noticed in the past ,the better ones came on the day , lesser ones the following day ??

[dal2]

i cant get my head round it ? 5 of the 6 still away have carded this year ,rarely late home .they all raced over 200 miles the week before ,9 of those sent in the first 16 of the club and first 36 of the fed .1 x 2yr old won cards as a yb ,many club and fed cards as a yearling ,and same again this year .oh and was 3rd club 5th fed from same race point and wind last year ?? doesnt add up. only 3rd season up here , much more of this and i shall be looking for canaries

Ye ye got it bad Andy, we have all been there, you will just have to go with what made it now mate.

 

When I said not good enough I would rephrase to say they wer not on the day! That does not make it any better for you I know. Bad luck but CANARIES aint the way to go!!!!!

[b.massey]

It's an atmosphere problem I think, I also believe something happened to the leaders on sat! My first pigeon would have been 10th choice from 10 sent and majority I spoke too got unfancied birds (not everyone of course) but loads said it was there under performers! My bird that was 6th fed last week and has 4x1st clubs and nat diplomas is missing! I got all yearlings so I find it interesting that me, Gary and Andy are missing our main birds from same race!! And many other fanciers down main doo's so has leaders ran into problems? Has experienced doo's tried to use heads to avoid something and flew into trouble and others battered on! Who knows and no disrespect to leading birds by the way! Am only giving 1view, no one can know for sure

[walterboswell59]

there is no dout its a mix of things andy but number one just now is health then clashing and bop k factor and earthquakes for f k sake whats next aliens load of crap im the proof yearlings and latebreds getting home ripped to shreds but there home not because there better or smarter than anyone elses birds but because i can keep away the sickness thats going through the baskets m8 and now so can you even if there days or weeks late it will not make rubbish birds win it just keeps the good birds healthy pal good luck and chin up

[b.massey]

there is no dout its a mix of things andy but number one just now is health then clashing and bop k factor and earthquakes for f k sake whats next aliens load of crap im the proof yearlings and latebreds getting home ripped to shreds but there home not because there better or smarter than anyone elses birds but because i can keep away the sickness thats going through the baskets m8 and now so can you even if there days or weeks late it will not make rubbish birds win it just keeps the good birds healthy pal good luck and chin up

 

 

 

 

Good point about sickness from baskets! I had a hen last week that was spot on going to race then she was my 3rd bird and next day looked terrible with dirty wattles! Sent sample to vet straight away and wee bacterial problem and all sorted now! But she got something while is basket

[moscow master]

When I started the doos in 89 even the rubbish came home just later or they were on the darter in the morning seldom happens now as there scattered to the four winds way the bop its gradually getting worse every year nothing to do with the sun and the moon ,mobile fones etc get it into your heids its the bop end of and it will only get worse for instance you take your birds a 20 ml toss ten times no probs then next time you go get home not a bird to be seen then one then a couple by the next day couple down and birds look pumpit its not because someone's made a fone call or what ever other nonsense that's goin about its the bop and if your doos are getting spooked 200 mls from home and there left on there own it's a 200 ml single up way a spooked doo that's the problem I've seen it too often that's my rant over all the best everyone at the first national

[tiger]

my opion was the feds that went early got it harder the ones that went later got it better I was at Selby on sat and the sun did not appear till 7,15 was low cloud cover witch did not help .jmo

[tiger]

The only thing that is on the rise really is bop with racing getting worse each year.

Couple that with bad health and people molly coddling pigeons then breeding from them ye have a recipe for disaster.

 

Say 10% of the birdage was not fit enough or unhealthy those doos can turn and keep turning full batches which causes problems and yeah good doos do get lost. People lost doos that have won the national. I'm afraid its part of the doo game. The old saying when they are in the sky they are not yours.

bad doo.s will not stop the winners nor will they turn them they wont keep up and just go down , jmo

[Guest stb-]

i cant get my head round it ? 5 of the 6 still away have carded this year ,rarely late home .they all raced over 200 miles the week before ,9 of those sent in the first 16 of the club and first 36 of the fed .1 x 2yr old won cards as a yb ,many club and fed cards as a yearling ,and same again this year .oh and was 3rd club 5th fed from same race point and wind last year ?? doesnt add up. only 3rd season up here , much more of this and i shall be looking for canaries

aandy we get that type of racing here very regualr for years , and its par for the course most races

 

loose 2 or 3 doos from your team at 90 miles never see them again one is the previous weeks wwinner other 2 are fed winners , nothing new there i get it all the time even at training tosses and so do lots of others especially from here over into ayrshire your race on sat would be classed as good to a lot

[geordie1234]

bad doo.s will not stop the winners nor will they turn them they wont keep up and just go down , jmo

Ofcoarse they won't stop the winners because there is winners in every race.

 

I have saw with my own eyes unhealthy chappers turning doos back, yes they healthy doos will eventually leave them but its the floating about at lib point that causes part of the problem imo