ALF Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Just been watching this on sky 3 and seen Nigel Templar on it as his pub is 1 of the toughest in Bristol and let's hope Nigel finds out who killed his pigeons and sorts them out as i'm very sure he will 8) 8) 8)
OLDYELLOW Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 watching same thing Alf toughest villages was good as well especialy the Skiningrove one
OLDYELLOW Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 just noticed its the same one with sayer bros on it
ALF Posted December 29, 2008 Author Report Posted December 29, 2008 Am still watching it Mark 8) 8) 8)
Chairman Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Toughest pubs maybe, but we had the best bare knuckle fighter in the land..........now then know who he was?
PATTY BHOY Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 like the picture Alf ;D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
gangster Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 ha ha they will be sorry when nigel finds out ha ha!!!!
gangster Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Toughest pubs maybe, but we had the best bare knuckle fighter in the land..........now then know who he was? who?
gangster Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 i know a guy who did that up in geordie land he never lost 1 ive heard
Guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 He must have found them by now,seen that programme three years ago.
ALF Posted December 29, 2008 Author Report Posted December 29, 2008 He must have found them by now,seen that programme three years ago. Let's hope so Vinny 8) 8) 8)
Roland Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Well 'Sykes' was one... But I'd still go with Lenny McGlean. Gosh and Roy Shaw is reputed to still be going... 70 or so now. Mad mitch etc. etc. but them with Bradshaw etc. were well beaten by lenny.
Roland Posted December 29, 2008 Report Posted December 29, 2008 Toughest pubs maybe, but we had the best bare knuckle fighter in the land..........now then know who he was? But What era?
DAVIDL Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Toughest pubs maybe, but we had the best bare knuckle fighter in the land..........now then know who he was? Bartley Gorman, undefeated......
DAVIDL Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 51 years old here and can still fight...
grizzal Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I would go for lenny or pretty boy shaw,
just ask me Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 these boys were tough no doubt id say any half decent boxer wold take them as they telegraph punches and there skills leave a lot to be desired
Guest Vic Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Toughest pubs maybe, but we had the best bare knuckle fighter in the land..........now then know who he was? Was't Stevie G? otherwise known as The Southport Southpaw? LOL.
Guest j.bamling Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Bartley Gorman, undefeated...... Bartley Gorman - King of the Gypsys i have read the book very good read as are the others roy pretty boy shaw lenny the guvnr McLean Charles Bronson
Tony C Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Was't Stevie G? otherwise known as The Southport Southpaw? LOL. Fighting out of the red corner ;D
Roland Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Bartley Gorman - King of the Gypsys ... Heard too many rumours to the contary to take him as a serious contender. roy pretty boy shaw once beat Lenny - 1st time, but was truely well beaten second time by Lenny Lenny the guvnr McLean... yes, when he went to the USA and fought the top Mafia enforcer, a 6 foot 8 mean machine, he annialated him within a minute... spent the rest of his stay fighting down the docks against all comers for kicks. Charles Bronson ... have a few in Woodville that would tear Bronson apart. Top dog there though is easily Samson. he is 6 foot six and -Like a few others - manacled when leaving the cell. But no half decent boxer would beat them I'm afraid. Frank Bruno was offered out by Lenny, but sensibly refused. lenny would have tore him apart. Mind Bruno wasn't even half decent .... Now Whiddet, he was pure class.... but only allowed to be a sparring partner... they wouldn't allow him a licence, saying 'We can make money with Bruno' etc. and paid the price for being out of order shall we say. John Darke was more than a mean handful. Was no doubt hammering John Binden - a Bully Boy granted - when he was stabbed.
Roland Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Very True Vallance, and I'm certainly not pushing my boat out lol. Now were have here two real hard men. When they brought 4 hardmen down from the smoke (Had shooter too), they clobber the 4 between them, amd mark my words all four were named and no slouches. Further one did the door all over Britain when called for as they had big trouble. Very well paid too. Had a coper here stationed once, who said, and I can't quote word for word but the gist, 'Beem Tiger Bay, Liverpool, and some real rough places in Newcastle.... But this town is not only full of nutters but some of the ardest I've ever seen AND those two, the afored mentioned, are the top two'! We said you haven't met Jimmy P**** yet then and laughed. He fought Randolph Turpin twice... etc. Was a brilliant footballer and cricket wicket keeper. At 16 they used to tie the ropes around 4 trees up the Oval and he'd fight all comers for 10 bob (50p) Yes the towns hard men. and many that came from miles around and never lost, often had several fights of course in one night. Made a lot of dosh. Different era's of course... But the one that went Manchester, London etc. trouble shooting always said that 'Huggy -another hard legend - was the toughest man he ever fought, and that was when he was 57! Against a 23 year ol. So glad I never had to fight the losers lol.
DAVIDL Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Lenny was also done several times, i cant actually remember the names at the minute but will check up when i get home, Lenny's book is one of my favourite but it also keeps things one sided and doesnt mention him getting done as he did, i feel sure i read about it in either Dave Courtney's or Roy Shaw's book. Never the less i wouldnt want to fight him even now and he's been dead since 1998. vallance is right...lenny mclean was beaten on a few occasions, johnny waldren beat him twice, cliff fields beat him once and roy shaw beat him once...all by knock out, he was also beaten on pionts by kevin paddock. roland, there are always rumours surounding fighters, and a lot of their victories are embellished but the simple fact is that bartley gorman was unbeaten and no man could ever lay claim to beating him, he also issued challanges to shaw and mclean but they never fought him....
Roland Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 vallance is right...lenny mclean was beaten on a few occasions, johnny waldren beat him twice, cliff fields beat him once and roy shaw beat him once...all by knock out, he was also beaten on pionts by kevin paddock. roland, there are always rumours surounding fighters, and a lot of their victories are embellished but the simple fact is that bartley gorman was unbeaten and no man could ever lay claim to beating him, he also issued challanges to shaw and mclean but they never fought him.... Very True... Was that the Cliff Fields from Margate way boxing club Was an Empire Games contestant...
DAVIDL Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 roland, the cliff fields was a.b.a. champion and then turned pro and won the southern area championship...he was also a contender for the british title. i also found this which says he beat lenny mclean twice and not once...hope it is of interest to you. Cliff Fields, born 06/03/1943 in Dunstable, England, also known as "Cliffy Field" and "Iron Man", was a former bare-knuckle boxing champion during the 1970s and 1980s. He also spent time in the Royal Navy, where after he trained and lived in a scrapyard to become a bareknuckle boxing champion after being refused a licence by the British Boxing Board of Control because he lost an eye by being glassed during a bar-room brawl. He is notable for having beaten Lenny McLean twice, both time by knockout in the first round. McLean described Fields as "something that had some out of the mountains".
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