2Nd Day Returns 09/09/12

[greenlands]

You really are a fantastic advert for our sport always the optimist. :lol:

Percy is only a small percentage of whats wrong in the sport,there are so many other discerning factors to take into account.The sport will carry on as it has always done and put money on it Frank will be back just as you do year on year. :lol: . :emoticon-0167-beer:

You must live in a completely different area to me mate PERCY is a serious problem here.I agree there are other problems that need some attention,but I know where I would start.

[thunderbigbaws]

4 waiting to get in this morning full returns :emoticon-0137-clapping:

[WulDon]

4 waiting to get in this morning full returns :emoticon-0137-clapping:

 

 

full returns, brill... funny dundee n angus struggling when they all went up together?

 

1 today half a tail missing,5/5

 

 

a worth while training toss then Mr.B!

[Pego]

Got 4 this morning 22/25. Fife Fed Wakefield.

[Guest stb-]

You really are a fantastic advert for our sport always the optimist. :lol:

Percy is only a small percentage of whats wrong in the sport,there are so many other discerning factors to take into account.The sport will carry on as it has always done and put money on it Frank will be back just as you do year on year. :lol: . :emoticon-0167-beer:

vince when you cant get your birds out to excersise during the racing

because there getting ripped to bits at home and your loosing more from the loft than you are at racing percy is the main prob m8 and very soon there will be a pair to each loft , and at the rate there multiplying your pair will be with you soon . I keep saying that it cant get any worse but year on year it it does and in reality percie has only increased because we supply the food at the required time for them every year .

[DJWa]

vince when you cant get your birds out to excersise during the racing

because there getting ripped to bits at home and your loosing more from the loft than you are at racing percy is the main prob m8 and very soon there will be a pair to each loft , and at the rate there multiplying your pair will be with you soon . I keep saying that it cant get any worse but year on year it it does and in reality percie has only increased because we supply the food at the required time for them every year .

 

rab its about at the point where natures going to take care of the problem itself

you can already see that percys changes its habbits in an attempt to survive

but thats only delaying the inevitable which is with not enough prey to sustain the high numbers they will starve thus self culling to a more natural number

 

you see it with all species when numbers become too great to sustain there is a

point where the numbers get decimated by starvation

down to very low levels and it can take decades to repopulate to natural levels

 

look at human beings in africa / ethiopia for example

they know the country they live in can only sustain so many but they continually

have large familys which the land struggles to support

when a drought comes every few years the people starve and die off till there numbers reach levels the countryside can support/feed

 

if you look at it logically we support these starving people with food parcels etc

thus more surviving till the next drought

with more mouths to feed it actually makes it worse

 

im in no way saying not to help folk in hard times

just makinng a comparison with population numbers in all species

[VMS]

vince when you cant get your birds out to excersise during the racing

because there getting ripped to bits at home and your loosing more from the loft than you are at racing percy is the main prob m8 and very soon there will be a pair to each loft , and at the rate there multiplying your pair will be with you soon . I keep saying that it cant get any worse but year on year it it does and in reality percie has only increased because we supply the food at the required time for them every year .

agree that they are a massive problem m8 but i just dont think they are to blame for the percentage of the losses when racing that they get the blame for.Also agree that at this time of year they are a problem round the loft and that we are feeding them we keep our birds in all winter and i think everyone else should also do this.

[Novice]

agree that they are a massive problem m8 but i just dont think they are to blame for the percentage of the losses when racing that they get the blame for.Also agree that at this time of year they are a problem round the loft and that we are feeding them we keep our birds in all winter and i think everyone else should also do this.

 

We have the power to strike back legally by controlling the food supply.

Take pigeon off the menu at peak times and their numbers will fall as will the number of songbirds.

Keeping our birds in during winter will make little difference.

It's before they nest, while they are rearing and above all when they are teaching their young to kill that we need to act.

[frank-123]

agree that they are a massive problem m8 but i just dont think they are to blame for the percentage of the losses when racing that they get the blame for.Also agree that at this time of year they are a problem round the loft and that we are feeding them we keep our birds in all winter and i think everyone else should also do this.

 

Vincent can you tell me have you seen a peregrine strike a batch of pigeon's ?

[VMS]

Vincent can you tell me have you seen a peregrine strike a batch of pigeon's ?

Aye seen it a few years back Lanarkshire batches flying over our lofts percy chasing them all over the place between us and Law,the pigeons split but carried on no batch turning or anything like it.

[frank-123]

Aye seen it a few years back Lanarkshire batches flying over our lofts percy chasing them all over the place between us and Law,the pigeons split but carried on no batch turning or anything like it.

 

Vincent my birds were bombed outside my loft two or three year ago the pigeons dived into tree's at tremendous speed. Someone told me of a game keeper walking through the woods he heard an almighty crash and popping noises after having a look there were pigeons lying on the ground some with wings taken clean off other's were speared onto branches. Total carnage. Until fanciers see it for themselves then they will blame clashing and all the other rubbish.

 

Next year I will try to get it on video camera and show you what damage they can do.

 

Hopefully I will be back in the sport in the future but will there be a future? As novice has said big big change's need to take place in the sport.

[William Reid]

Vincent my birds were bombed outside my loft two or three year ago the pigeons dived into tree's at tremendous speed. Someone told me of a game keeper walking through the woods he heard an almighty crash and popping noises after having a look there were pigeons lying on the ground some with wings taken clean off other's were speared onto branches. Total carnage. Until fanciers see it for themselves then they will blame clashing and all the other rubbish.

 

Next year I will try to get it on video camera and show you what damage they can do.

 

Hopefully I will be back in the sport in the future but will there be a future? As novice has said big big change's need to take place in the sport.

Hello m8 as you know I have always trained on m74 and have seen two different kind of strikes. One when peregrine hits into batch like a missile and the pigeons explode in all directions.have also seen peregrine herd a batch of pigeons not allowing them to leave the area till a single pigeon leaves the batch and then it was joined by another 2. IMO first just to kill and second to train its young.

[Guest stb-]

Vincent can you tell me have you seen a peregrine strike a batch of pigeon's ?

frank a lot have never seen the damage it does mines dive into the woods like rockets just seeing the bassa going over they knock eyes out burst wings dent keels bruised all over and some just dont come back out prob dead or brocken wing etc , i have seen the pigeon come down into the feilds that hard they actually bounce up when they hit the ground , sheer terror , sparrs are a pain but dont fighten birds like a percy

[LossieDooDame]

How many members have had youngsters return today from yesterdays racing?

 

What were your returns from yesterday?

 

I had another 2 back yesterday from Arniston,just waiting on 3 now, 11 out of 14 all in all.

S