Ets And Its Faults

[Guest bigda]

http://i have been reading about the ETS and it has its problems and i think they should be stoped form getting used, where money is involved IE open races and racing should be looked into the normal clock had the same thing done it had to go through a 3 way test to see if it could be manipulated, but it dose not seem to be the case of the ETS SYSTEM there is one company come out and are worried about the fact that ets rings can be cloned and they are refusing to support the use the hitag 2 type ring if this is there stance on it should there clock be brought into question it also brings into question all clocks Benzing,Taurus, Brecon,Unicon, as i am led to believe that there is a cable that can link all units together so the hi tag and other rings can be used

the only part might change is the software, now it these rings can be cloned how many are out there, the SHU should be coming out and the RPRA, THE REST OF THE UNIONS SHOULD BE LETTING THE FANCY KNOW OF THIS.hope there are some out there going to tell us all what this is all about. there are enough CLOWNS IN THE sport with out adding more CLONES, this should be a worry for ever fancier they dont mind getting beat fairly, but if this come to light and the fact it can be done the one loft races are they safe.is any race safe

[Pompey Mick]

On Unikon when an ETS ring is scanned for a race I was under the impression that a security code is implanted in the ring for that race, effectively race marking that particular ETS ring. If that is the case then it wouldn't matter how may 'clones' there are because it would only be the ETS ring that was scanned which would be relevant to that race.

[Guest bigda]

On Unikon when an ETS ring is scanned for a race I was under the impression that a security code is implanted in the ring for that race, effectively race marking that particular ETS ring. If that is the case then it wouldn't matter how may 'clones' there are because it would only be the ETS ring that was scanned which would be relevant to that race.

 

 

but if you took the same ring out your pocket and put over the scan pad at your shed

would the scan then think it was the bird arriving as the 2 rings have the same information i don't suppose it will be all that hard for a ring with a security code be cracked and them been replicated can you imagine if you had a second ring in your hand, when you are flying for a million pound race, would there be many out there not tempted to place the ring over the scanner.pad

[Guest TAMMY_1]

but if you took the same ring out your pocket and put over the scan pad at your shed

would the scan then think it was the bird arriving as the 2 rings have the same information i don't suppose it will be all that hard for a ring with a security code be cracked and them been replicated can you imagine if you had a second ring in your hand, when you are flying for a million pound race, would there be many out there not tempted to place the ring over the scanner.pad

Danny do you think there can be no cheating with an ordinary clock?

[kingbilly 1]

but if you took the same ring out your pocket and put over the scan pad at your shed

would the scan then think it was the bird arriving as the 2 rings have the same information i don't suppose it will be all that hard for a ring with a security code be cracked and them been replicated can you imagine if you had a second ring in your hand, when you are flying for a million pound race, would there be many out there not tempted to place the ring over the scanner.pad

showing your true coulers now dany bohy the sport is all about trust

[Guest bigda]

on the day of the race yes i could see the ring getting a number added, to the software on the club system of that days race. the number system would need to change every day or time that same bird goes through for another race. to preventing it having a clone. take a one loft race if the owners has the club system they would know the number format if they got 4 or 5 rings details read, and new what system the ets was encrypting also, from the software , it would be the easiest way to steal a million pound, than planing a robbery for a million pound.

if they re register a bird or activate a bird for there own use and have the clones to birds what would stop them or some one release a hungry bird from the lofts so as to enter the loft as the winner. might be farcical but not imposable

[dwh]

showing your true coulers now dany bohy the sport is all about trust

well said tam if you want to cheat does'nt matter what system

you use

there's always a way

[Guest bigda]

showing your true coulers now dany bohy the sport is all about trust

 

 

why did they call for the 3 way test then was that trust, i am sure you liked that nat results that where given on trust 4 or 5 years wining in every race entered

[kingbilly 1]

hers one for you dany you have marked your doos and you get up the next day doos are home and thers somthing rong with your base station you take your doo to your nabours pout in your clock to his base station pout your bird over his pad you get your time same as using a thimble in your nabours clock if yours stops but the down side to this is you no where your nabures clock is set in your club but the base station and pads could be 50ml away its all about trust and you no wot hapens to cheets dany bohy

[delboy74]

Sh it stirring bassssa

[maverick]

We had this a few years ago when a certain gentleman said the ETS could be cheated UNICON offered this said man a good amount of cash to prove this said gentleman reclined the offer, Enough said

[greenlands]

If I've got to cheat to win I'll pack in,you're only cheating yourself.I've been a clock setter since day dot.Can someone tell me why we waste a piece of string and a seal,it's plain to see when a clock as been opened.ETS know absolutely nothing about them apart from being seriously over priced,right from the first purchase to the last ring,bloody disgusting.Had the chance of buying a benzing,still in the box,have you seen then price of a 20" pad>>£200.I'll stick to the STB for a while unless I can be lucky and get a grant

[bigjamie]

YOUR RIGHT TAM DANNY I THINK YOU GO TO BED AT NIGHT AND THINK WHAT KIND OF A STIR CAN I CAUSE ON BASIC THE MORRA GOD THERE TO MANY DECENT FOLK IN THIS GAME TO TRY SOMETHING DAFT LIKE THAT YOU WOULD BE RIGHT OUT ON YER ASS IF CAUGHT TRYING THAT BLOODY THING WE BUY BIRDS IN BUILD A FAMILY AND TRY TO WIN THATS THE NAME OF THE GAME ITS CALLED RACING PIGEONS NOT CHEATING PIGEONS GOD THERE NOTHING ANY BETTER THAN WINNING WE ALL WANT TO WIN BUT THERES ONLY ONE WINNER IN EACH RACE AND FOR ETS I SAVED HARD FOR MINE AND THE RINGS ARE NOT CHEAP

[dwh]

since clocks were invented there's been cheating dead legging

getting a club mate to remove the rubber at basketing

etc

all been done b4 and many been caught

ets will have ways of been manipulated and many will be caught again

trust dear friends trust :emoticon-0138-thinking:

[Guest bigda]

for 1 million pound there are guys that would rob banks but if they knew on a easy way with out getting caught it would be tempting hope this has wakened the site up a bit as it is going flat to many days bigda here to keep you all on yer toes

[OLDYELLOW]

at marking the ets ring gets assigned to a race , even if had a duplicate it would read the same but wont be assigned , I can clone my rpra life rings and get two sets the same but no point in doing so , as been said go find how to do it and take Unicon up on there challenge and fill yer bank coffers up

[Guest stb-]

showing your true coulers now dany bohy the sport is all about trust

fek Tam theres plenty big fish been found oot they couldny be trusted in the past

and there will always be more , if it was aboot trust we widny need clocks ye wid just ask them there time at the club

[Guest bigda]

fek Tam theres plenty big fish been found oot they couldny be trusted in the past

and there will always be more , if it was aboot trust we widny need clocks ye wid just ask them there time at the club

 

 

aye am all up what time you get oh i beat you

[Roland]

Yes of course nothing / system is infaalible.

But as for still gettingaway with the slight of hand with dead birds ring, that's real old hat now, and could only be done via two in cohoots.

Anything electric etc. can be diddled true... but then again the dodges and cheating on the rubber clockers is, and has been enormous. Indeed far easier than any ET. that's a fact.

Some ways that they have been cheated with could be done with ET's too granted. But I remember well a few years ago, not so long ago, - less than a decade - wen a big name, and of a very high position in the Sport - had won consistantly for 30 years. Turns out he had never ever actually ever sent a bird to a race.

When he got banned big time his wife wrote to the BHW letters saying how disgracefull to ban him after all the hard work and effort he'd done for the fancy in the past 40 years! True and many on here will recall no doubt.

[The Grass Cutter]

RACING IS ALMOST AT AN END, SO THE CRACKPOT SEASON IS UPON US. SINCE THE YEAR 2000 THE SAME QUESTIONS HAVE CAME UP AND HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. THE PEOPLE WHO ASK THE QUESTIONS DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE SECURITY OF ETS BUT THIS DOESN'T STOP THEM COMING OUT THE WOODWORK,

[Guest bigda]

Yes of course nothing / system is infaalible.

But as for still gettingaway with the slight of hand with dead birds ring, that's real old hat now, and could only be done via two in cohoots.

Anything electric etc. can be diddled true... but then again the dodges and cheating on the rubber clockers is, and has been enormous. Indeed far easier than any ET. that's a fact.

Some ways that they have been cheated with could be done with ET's too granted. But I remember well a few years ago, not so long ago, - less than a decade - wen a big name, and of a very high position in the Sport - had won consistantly for 30 years. Turns out he had never ever actually ever sent a bird to a race.

When he got banned big time his wife wrote to the BHW letters saying how disgracefull to ban him after all the hard work and effort he'd done for the fancy in the past 40 years! True and many on here will recall no doubt.

hope you let him back in, all that work he done

[kingbilly 1]

fek Tam theres plenty big fish been found oot they couldny be trusted in the past

and there will always be more , if it was aboot trust we widny need clocks ye wid just ask them there time at the club

you and bigdafty seem to be as thick as theves the now has he promest you a pair of young birds lol

[Delboy]

Yes of course nothing / system is infaalible.

But as for still gettingaway with the slight of hand with dead birds ring, that's real old hat now, and could only be done via two in cohoots.

Anything electric etc. can be diddled true... but then again the dodges and cheating on the rubber clockers is, and has been enormous. Indeed far easier than any ET. that's a fact.

Some ways that they have been cheated with could be done with ET's too granted. But I remember well a few years ago, not so long ago, - less than a decade - wen a big name, and of a very high position in the Sport - had won consistantly for 30 years. Turns out he had never ever actually ever sent a bird to a race.

When he got banned big time his wife wrote to the BHW letters saying how disgracefull to ban him after all the hard work and effort he'd done for the fancy in the past 40 years! True and many on here will recall no doubt.

 

That guy was Irish I believe,

[Roland]

He was Delboy.

[blaz]

i was at a fanciers loft a while back.looking at his ets he told me been checked by club and sealed.then he swiched it on and said watch this. he put some birds out as birds came in to land still flying the ets went beep beep.picked up the ets ring clocked it and the bird had not landed yet.