Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Just spoke with a friend of mine who has been let down by his ets, everything is blank and has been told by unikon that all info of the race from Carantan this weekend is lost. Any fancier that uses ets and has the operatunity of getting a rubber put on the other leg, should, its not worth relying on ets when the big races come up. Toulets, stbs, T3's and ets, no difference when it comes to reliablility.
PIGEON_MAN Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Always keen to know what the problem is or how it may be caused when I see someone having trouble with ETS never know when any info.may come in usefull oneday, any idea as to what happened.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Always keen to know what the problem is or how it may be caused when I see someone having trouble with ETS never know when any info.may come in usefull oneday, any idea as to what happened.None, pocket clock has to get sent to peterborourgh and once its opened up then all the info will be lost.
Walter swanston Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 None, pocket clock has to get sent to peterborourgh and once its opened up then all the info will be lost.
Guest Cawdy Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 is that just the one guy or something to do with the marking satation hope your mate has a clock set ?
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Just spoke with a friend of mine who has been let down by his ets, everything is blank and has been told by unikon that all info of the race from Carantan this weekend is lost. Any fancier that uses ets and has the operatunity of getting a rubber put on the other leg, should, its not worth relying on ets when the big races come up. Toulets, stbs, T3's and ets, no difference when it comes to reliablility. our secretary told me previously there is an rpra rule down here where we have to use ets OR rubbers,you cannot use both in the same race.I don't know that for sure,just what he had told me.
Walter swanston Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 This is all very interesting stuff Gareth however I know several fanciers who since the advent of ETS no longer have functioning altenative clocks, looks like they could have problems.
ALF Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 The fancier we are talking about put his clock in his base station this Morning and it never showed any clock in his base station so he phoned me and brought his clock down to try in my base station but same result never seen any clock in the base station again
OLDYELLOW Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 our secretary told me previously there is an rpra rule down here where we have to use ets OR rubbers,you cannot use both in the same race.I don't know that for sure,just what he had told me.you can only use one clock that's right you nominate the clock your going to use by timing in to it , but if ets failed and your birds are rubbered you elect to use the manual clock which is fine , however you can't clock using ets and a manual clock at the same time it's either one or the other , had same problem mesen cocks on ets and hens on rubbers two different sections so simply put them all on rubbers some silly rules out there
Henrik Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 our secretary told me previously there is an rpra rule down here where we have to use ets OR rubbers,you cannot use both in the same race.I don't know that for sure,just what he had told me.Tam rule is up here that you cannot use two clocks for the same race,ie mix rubbers and ETS but you can set a second clock as a back-up if your ETS fails or your first clock stops. Would imagine the same rule applies down there.
jim Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 I HAVE HAD STRAYS IN WITH ET ON AND RUBBER ON THE RING LEG QUITE A FEW ACTUALLY SPECIALY WITH THE LONGER RACES NOW WOUNDERED WHY SO ETS NOT SOUND CANT BE RELIED ON
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Tammy, Henrik and Oldyellow have summoned it up pretty well, rubbers for back up but you have to nominate your first method of timming, no mix and matching. Cawdy !! he doesn't have a second clock set so he is out of the race, which is tragic, all the same i still gave him a bollocking for not having a second clock set with a rubber on the second leg.
Henrik Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Tammy, Henrik and Oldyellow have summoned it up pretty well, rubbers for back up but you have to nominate your first method of timming, no mix and matching. Cawdy !! he doesn't have a second clock set so he is out of the race, which is tragic, all the same i still gave him a bollocking for not having a second clock set with a rubber on the second leg.Could he not still get a second clock set?
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Tam rule is up here that you cannot use two clocks for the same race,ie mix rubbers and ETS but you can set a second clock as a back-up if your ETS fails or your first clock stops. Would imagine the same rule applies down there.if you have nominated to use ets and it fails on trying to time in how can you then change to rubbers if as I said you have nominated to use ets ?
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 No as the marking station didn't put rubber/double rubbers on, unless you asked for them. Gerry didn't bother as he put all his trust with ETS.
Ian McKay Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Tammy, Henrik and Oldyellow have summoned it up pretty well, rubbers for back up but you have to nominate your first method of timming, no mix and matching. Cawdy !! he doesn't have a second clock set so he is out of the race, which is tragic, all the same i still gave him a bollocking for not having a second clock set with a rubber on the second leg. He can still time in with someone with a manual clock
maverick Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 He can still time in with someone with a manual clock Not if the birds are not rubber rung Ian M8
Henrik Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 if you have nominated to use ets and it fails on trying to time in how can you then change to rubbers if as I said you have nominated to use ets ?Just the same as if you set a T3 and an STB as a back-up, you nominate your T3 as your first clock and if it goes wrong then you still have the STB times as a back-up. But you can only use the back-up if your first clock fails. In the SNFC all ETS burds have a rubber put on and manual birds are double rubbered in case of mishaps.
PIGEON_MAN Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 I dont know of any club or organisation down here that would let you use ETS and also rubber your birds you do not get a choice its one or the other,so if the ETS failed I,m afraid thats it,you can have 2 clocks set if you use rubbers only but as others have said you must mark your number 1 clock then only if that one fails can you use the second one.
JADE Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 If the birds were marked and he was given a print out the clock must have gone wrong since then. Could it be battery failure? Would he not be allowed to remove the ets ring and put it in an ordinary clock then it could be verified(on second thoughts probably not in Lanarkshire)
Henrik Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 I dont know of any club or organisation down here that would let you use ETS and also rubber your birds you do not get a choice its one or the other,so if the ETS failed I,m afraid thats it,you can have 2 clocks set if you use rubbers only but as others have said you must mark your number 1 clock then only if that one fails can you use the second one.That my friend is a blatant case of discrimination, everyone should be able to have a back-up not only those who use Manual Clocks.
Ian McKay Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Not if the birds are not rubber rung Ian M8 Yes your right only a FOOL would trust UNIKON only :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:
Ian McKay Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 If the birds were marked and he was given a print out the clock must have gone wrong since then. Could it be battery failure? Would he not be allowed to remove the ets ring and put it in an ordinary clock then it could be verified(on second thoughts probably not in Lanarkshire) How right your second thought is :emoticon-0179-headbang: :emoticon-0179-headbang: And we wonder why people are leaving the sport :emoticon-0138-thinking:
daviedoo22 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 I have had a few problems with ETS over the years,the main one is time of birds arrival but no bird details, i have had my national print out returned to me with the wrong date,when i returned from work and noticed the error the birds were away.I always have a STB set now for nationals.
Delboy Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Tammy, Henrik and Oldyellow have summoned it up pretty well, rubbers for back up but you have to nominate your first method of timming, no mix and matching. Cawdy !! he doesn't have a second clock set so he is out of the race, which is tragic, all the same i still gave him a bollocking for not having a second clock set with a rubber on the second leg. FOR fk SAKE, THATS TORTURE.
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