I Fear The Worst

[hotrod]

In all the years I've had pigeons ,since 1977 ,I've never had so many stray youngsters in my loft ,especially before the racing starts, think bops have had a real go at fanciers teams either at lofts or training, I've 4just now ,well 3in baskets and 1walking around the front of my loft , GB12S44132, got one in earlier today ,SU 12 R 597 , one in last night. SU12WS 408 ,and one from dalzell club in Lanarkshire a couple of days ago ,I've already reported around half a doz already this year

[tyson]

I quite agree hotrod if we keep getting the same weather as we did with old birds ith the young birds plus double the amount of percies with the young now fledgling I feel the worst myself the doo game is about fk imo

[yeboah]

Just heard tonight of a fellow federation member who is 56 down from first toss getting beyond the serious stage now only solution is a vaccine being produced .

[hotrod]

thatnx to the two guys that posted ,not bad eh! 220 views and only two thats bothered to post oh and not one person putting up a phone number about the found birds briliant .that just sums up pigeon men its naw me so fk it .

[cemetary]

With the amound of Percys sites that have been reported am not surprised that the fanciers will be getting in a few ybs, its all about helping each another getting there birds back to the owners, so come on guys help Stu out with the owners of the birds posted.

[knoxjn]

fair play to you stuart for trying mate lost half my team 3 weeks ago not heard a dickie bird they have vanished always report them try my best to get them home

[daviedoo22]

I have'nt had mine in a basket yet,i am actually dreading taking them for their first toss! this is not enjoyment? After the season we've had with our so called experienced birds,and as the topic heading says,I FEAR THE WORST!.Yes we have had terrible weather but that is not responsible for what has happened this year,a head wind for some feds will be a tail wind for others but it does'nt matter everyone is getting hammered.Youngsters stay together longer and in bigger batches.I FEAR THE WORST!!.

[BLACK W F]

I have'nt had mine in a basket yet,i am actually dreading taking them for their first toss! this is not enjoyment? After the season we've had with our so called experienced birds,and as the topic heading says,I FEAR THE WORST!.Yes we have had terrible weather but that is not responsible for what has happened this year,a head wind for some feds will be a tail wind for others but it does'nt matter everyone is getting hammered.Youngsters stay together longer and in bigger batches.I FEAR THE WORST!!.

davey who can train in this weather mine had 2 x 5mlers and by the look of this week no training here if its the same next week i,ll give the 1st 2 wks a miss no point throwing them away sure we are all in the same boat

[Blue Chequer Pied]

Stuart I know what you mean. I have experienced the worst training imaginable in the last two years with yb's. I could fill pages on it. This year I decided to do it all differently and it takes a lot of time and effort.

 

I have never been a fan of marker rings but when I was at the spring exchange I bought 6 different colours and have split my team into 6 lots of 10 each with different coloured rings. I vowed last year I would never toss all my yb's together in a batch again.

 

The other thing I do is I only ever take half of them with me at any one time ( boot space limits it but I am happy about it). I always put them up in batches with the thinking that if something happens to one batch it is not affecting the whole team. It adds time to every toss but it is helping as this time last year I had lost half my team. I think the smaller batches are a smaller target aswell. I have had some tough tosses and different batches have got into bother at different times but it seems to be better all round. I also have tried to avoid areas where there may be pigeons flying about (easier for me where I am than most people granted).

 

Another thing I have changed is the desire to get distance with them. They have only been approx 20 miles and have had 8 or 9 tosses each. I don't know if it will work or make a huge difference in the long-run but I was not prepared to just keep doing what I had always done. We need to look at things differently as the days of tossing 40 youngbirds in a batch and them coming in a batch time in time out are well and truly gone.

[Delboy]

Stuart I know what you mean. I have experienced the worst training imaginable in the last two years with yb's. I could fill pages on it. This year I decided to do it all differently and it takes a lot of time and effort.

 

I have never been a fan of marker rings but when I was at the spring exchange I bought 6 different colours and have split my team into 6 lots of 10 each with different coloured rings. I vowed last year I would never toss all my yb's together in a batch again.

 

The other thing I do is I only ever take half of them with me at any one time ( boot space limits it but I am happy about it). I always put them up in batches with the thinking that if something happens to one batch it is not affecting the whole team. It adds time to every toss but it is helping as this time last year I had lost half my team. I think the smaller batches are a smaller target aswell. I have had some tough tosses and different batches have got into bother at different times but it seems to be better all round. I also have tried to avoid areas where there may be pigeons flying about (easier for me where I am than most people granted).

 

Another thing I have changed is the desire to get distance with them. They have only been approx 20 miles and have had 8 or 9 tosses each. I don't know if it will work or make a huge difference in the long-run but I was not prepared to just keep doing what I had always done. We need to look at things differently as the days of tossing 40 youngbirds in a batch and them coming in a batch time in time out are well and truly gone.

Good post

[hotrod]

Stuart I know what you mean. I have experienced the worst training imaginable in the last two years with yb's. I could fill pages on it. This year I decided to do it all differently and it takes a lot of time and effort.

 

I have never been a fan of marker rings but when I was at the spring exchange I bought 6 different colours and have split my team into 6 lots of 10 each with different coloured rings. I vowed last year I would never toss all my yb's together in a batch again.

 

The other thing I do is I only ever take half of them with me at any one time ( boot space limits it but I am happy about it). I always put them up in batches with the thinking that if something happens to one batch it is not affecting the whole team. It adds time to every toss but it is helping as this time last year I had lost half my team. I think the smaller batches are a smaller target aswell. I have had some tough tosses and different batches have got into bother at different times but it seems to be better all round. I also have tried to avoid areas where there may be pigeons flying about (easier for me where I am than most people granted).

 

Another thing I have changed is the desire to get distance with them. They have only been approx 20 miles and have had 8 or 9 tosses each. I don't know if it will work or make a huge difference in the long-run but I was not prepared to just keep doing what I had always done. We need to look at things differently as the days of tossing 40 youngbirds in a batch and them coming in a batch time in time out are well and truly gone.

food for thought paul very good thinking ,might have a go at it myself ,anyways have got two y/bs away one got picked up ,i took one other accross the erskine bridge and to about 1.5 miles from home and let it go( the tosr never even phoned to say it was home or thanx) im taking the lanarkshire one with me tonight to the marking at newhouse ,the other i reported it to the fed secy(he told me its a greenock bird but ive not got my book handy) and not a call from the owner ,my wife is going to greenock today and will lib it ,pigeon men eh! makes me sick ,fk if i get one reported i either send for it or go and get it asap ,even the one got reported in germany cost me £125 to get it back , i got 2 y/bs off it and they are fkn crackers .

[Guest IB]

When I first read the thread I mistook it to be a discussion on lost young birds rather than a request for contact details for the birds listed, otherwise I would have provided them. Sorry about that.

 

I don't usually have that many young birds, and my basket usually limits my trainees to 12/14. Having said that I have trained with a club mate for a number of years now, and we put them up together, maybes around 40? We train evenings only, to about 25 miles, liberating around 7.15-ish to have them home around 8pm. I've never lost any training though my mate has and we solved that by moving the lib point after I had been told of the presence of 2 pairs of nesting percies near it.

 

Was joint training OBs recently, and these we liberated separately in small or seperate groups. I think when you do that, you do reduce the chances of a strike, but it won't stop them completely. I think my group of 5 was hit on Saturday judging by pattern of returns - 3 together 'on time' one 6 hours later and last missing, presumed dead. But that is still 'just' the 1 'iffy' trainer out of maybes 12.