East V'S West

[JohnQuinn]

I consider myself an average fancier with an average team of doos, that could win in most company on their day.

 

So here are my returns for the first 8 races with the Fed since 2005.

2005 East Route

Race 1....1/18 R/2...1/28 R/3....1/30 R/4....5/28 R/5...2/16 R/6...1/12 R/7....4/8 R/8...0/8 Total............15/148

2006 East Route

R/1....0/32 R/2...1/40 R3....0/40 R4....4/38 R/5....3/24 R/6....8/25 R/7....10/15 R8...3/7 Total..............29/221

2007 East Route

R/1.....0/30 R/2....0/32 R/3.....1/36 R/4......3/31 R5....2/33 R/6....7/34 R/7...0/12 R/8...0/8 Total..........13/216

2008 West Route

R/1....0/6 R/2 ....3/30 R/3....4/34 R/4....2/29 R/5...2/27 R/6...3/7 R/7...7/12 R/8...1/4 Total.............25/148

2009 East Route

R/1....0/12 R/2...2/29 R/3...1/30 R/4.....1/27 R/5....3/20 R/6....6/25 R/7....3/6 R/8.....0/10 Total......16/159

2010 East Route

R/1......0/28 R/2....1/46 R/3.....3/48 R/4...1/45 R/5.....3/38 R/6...4/12 R/7....2/15 R/8...2/13 Total....16/245

2011 East Route

R/1....0/15 R/2....0/13 R/3....1/32 R/4...4/36 R/5....2/22 R/6...0/15 R/7....0/14 R/8...3/5 Total.....10/142

2012 West Route

R/1....0/4 R/2.....2/20 R/3....3/31 R/4....2/26 R/5....4/23 R/6....4/19 R/7....1/10 R/8...6/10 Total....22/143

 

Make of these what you will but these numbers are Facts.

[Delboy]

Both years going west you lost a higher percentage.

[b.massey]

Looks fairly even there?

[andy Burgess]

what is your understanding then John .??

[JohnQuinn]

Both years going west you lost a higher percentage.

 

Aye and the strangest thing about it was i lost my best East Route birds when going West Route. All bar one anyway.

[jonl6280]

Maybe different birds like different terrain

[JohnQuinn]

what is your understanding then John .??

 

Not so much an understanding Andy, just seems that bit harder on the west route, and as you see the returns on the West route are worse, but not significantly so that it holds any argument as to which is BEST route. jmo

[Guest KING BILLY]

Both years going west you lost a higher percentage.

percentage dosent work her good years breeding or bad years breeding difrent doos how many sent east winds west winds or south winds or north

[andy Burgess]

Not so much an understanding Andy, just seems that bit harder on the west route, and as you see the returns on the West route are worse, but not significantly so that it holds any argument as to which is BEST route. jmo

i think if my returns were the same as quoted ,i would have "thrown the towel in" by year 3

[Delboy]

I consider myself an average fancier with an average team of doos, that could win in most company on their day.

 

So here are my returns for the first 8 races with the Fed since 2005.

2005 East Route

Race 1....1/18 R/2...1/28 R/3....1/30 R/4....5/28 R/5...2/16 R/6...1/12 R/7....4/8 R/8...0/8 Total............15/148 10.6%

2006 East Route

R/1....0/32 R/2...1/40 R3....0/40 R4....4/38 R/5....3/24 R/6....8/25 R/7....10/15 R8...3/7 Total..............29/221 13 %

2007 East Route

R/1.....0/30 R/2....0/32 R/3.....1/36 R/4......3/31 R5....2/33 R/6....7/34 R/7...0/12 R/8...0/8 Total..........13/216 6%

2008 West Route

R/1....0/6 R/2 ....3/30 R/3....4/34 R/4....2/29 R/5...2/27 R/6...3/7 R/7...7/12 R/8...1/4 Total.............25/148 16.8%

2009 East Route

R/1....0/12 R/2...2/29 R/3...1/30 R/4.....1/27 R/5....3/20 R/6....6/25 R/7....3/6 R/8.....0/10 Total......16/159 10%

2010 East Route

R/1......0/28 R/2....1/46 R/3.....3/48 R/4...1/45 R/5.....3/38 R/6...4/12 R/7....2/15 R/8...2/13 Total....16/245 0.6%

2011 East Route

R/1....0/15 R/2....0/13 R/3....1/32 R/4...4/36 R/5....2/22 R/6...0/15 R/7....0/14 R/8...3/5 Total.....10/142 14.2%

2012 West Route

R/1....0/4 R/2.....2/20 R/3....3/31 R/4....2/26 R/5....4/23 R/6....4/19 R/7....1/10 R/8...6/10 Total....22/143 15.3%

Make of these what you will but these numbers are Facts.

[JohnQuinn]

percentage dosent work her good years breeding or bad years breeding difrent doos how many sent east winds west winds or south winds or north

 

I figured taking 8 races from each year would give a good perception of the difference and take in most eventualities re, weather conditions, hold overs etc etc

[ALF]

i think if my returns were the same as quoted ,i would have "thrown the towel in" by year 3

 

ANDY I THINK JOHNS FIGURES ARE WHAT HE HAS LOST 1ST SENT 2ND MATE

[b.massey]

When u say 1/20 u mean lost 1 and 19 home??

[Delboy]

Not so much an understanding Andy, just seems that bit harder on the west route, and as you see the returns on the West route are worse, but not significantly so that it holds any argument as to which is BEST route. jmo

 

 

Very accurate assumption John, no great difference but east shades it, just.

[JohnQuinn]

When u say 1/20 u mean lost 1 and 19 home??

 

Aye that's it Brian, first number are those lost, second is number sent to each race.

[jonl6280]

We stay in the west, so race from the west . If any west section member want to win a national then you must race west

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

The conditions the pigeons have had to deal with this year has been horrendous, not just Lanarkshire doos but all organizations. Let's hope kind conditions prevails the rest of the season, then we will get a better reflection on east vs west.

[andy Burgess]

ANDY I THINK JOHNS FIGURES ARE WHAT HE HAS LOST 1ST SENT 2ND MATE

will wait on John,s reply ALF , i read it diffrent

[Delboy]

Its your fault , lol

[JohnQuinn]

i think if my returns were the same as quoted ,i would have "thrown the towel in" by year 3

 

Ye surely never thought i was losing the big number Andy, cos if that was the case i would have chucked it long before year 3

[b.massey]

I prefer west route if honest! I just hate yb's going into Durham and I feel the amount of huge allotments in Newcastle area stops returns of yb as they see all the birds here and hang around! We fly from eastern side Scotland and if I was a west fancier I would mini have another view with the route your birds go to the ones mines would

[andy Burgess]

Aye that's it Brian, first number are those lost, second is number sent to each race.

 

 

will wait on John,s reply ALF , i read it diffrent

 

 

now its clearer

[Delboy]

I prefer west route if honest! I just hate yb's going into Durham and I feel the amount of huge allotments in Newcastle area stops returns of yb as they see all the birds here and hang around! We fly from eastern side Scotland and if I was a west fancier I would mini have another view with the route your birds go to the ones mines would

 

 

Yes Brian, but as I said to Robbie, you are flying into a different area and not up the A74 so you cant really comment m8.I cant tell you whats best for your area, east or west.

[b.massey]

Yes Brian, but as I said to Robbie, you are flying into a different area and not up the A74 so you cant really comment m8.I cant tell you whats best for your area, east or west.

 

 

Yes I said that mate. I would have a different view if I flew from west side

[dal2]

How many stinkers in that line up John?

Your last race 6/10 is that the Cheltenham inland nat?

Hee haw wrang wae that flyin in my book cos I am quite sure if I looked it would be just as bad/good from the east for the last five years?

Of course MY opinion on racing into the west is not valid cos we are south of the Moffat hills but think that them returns are quite acceptable in most lofts, well done,.

 

Wer you trying to compete from the majority of races or setting birds up for the Nat?

Do you fly yearlings right to the coast or stop them at a certain distance?

 

Sorry for the questions but I love stats :emoticon-0136-giggle: