JohnQuinn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 If i could pick one fancier in Scotland to talk National pigeons with it would be a man i shook hands with today at the Fauldhouse Show, John McNeill of Broxburn. To talk Club and Fed pigeons it would be George Macaloney of Coatbridge, Lanarkshire,,,,,,,,,,,,JMO's
OLDYELLOW Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 ok who's the best in the north & westWell thats a matter of one's opinion go seek and you will find lol
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 If i could pick one fancier in Scotland to talk National pigeons with it would be a man i shook hands with today at the Fauldhouse Show, John McNeill of Broxburn. To talk Club and Fed pigeons it would be George Macaloney of Coatbridge, Lanarkshire,,,,,,,,,,,,JMO's Pretty sure you could have a good conversation with the Broxburn Bullet about club and fed pigeons as well John Be it old bird,young bird,50 miles or 500 miles he is at the top of the sheet
JohnQuinn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 May be wrong as I checked it fairly quickly I think there is only ONE fancier who has taken an open position in the SNFC Gold Cup race for the last 5 years consecutively. Without looking who do you think it is?? Very interesting fact Lewis if you're right enough. Would be interesting to know how many done it from say '76 > '81, '86 > '91, '96 > '01, to see the comparisons to nowadays. I'll bet someone has all the results and could check it out, Finding them is the problem
DJWa Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Who in your opinion is the best distance fliers in scotland ??? What results do they have? thanks what distance constitutes a long distance bird/fancier500/600/700/or further short distance 0- 250middle distance 250- 500middle to long distance 500- 650long distance 650 plusonly posted as an example as to distances pick from flyer consistently scoring in the chosen bandforget about the inland races and ypres they arnt of any distance to qualify as distance races jmo
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Very interesting fact Lewis if you're right enough. Would be interesting to know how many done it from say '76 > '81, '86 > '91, '96 > '01, to see the comparisons to nowadays. I'll bet someone has all the results and could check it out, Finding them is the problem Sir Robert Cormack I believe was on every Kings Cup result from 1968-2003 excluding 1997
JohnQuinn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Was always of the opinion, 0-200 Sprint 200-400 Middle 400-600 Long 600+ Extreme.
lanarkshire lad Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Was always of the opinion, 0-200 Sprint 200-400 Middle 400-600 Long 600+ Extreme.I would say you are about right there.
OLDYELLOW Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Was always of the opinion, 0-200 Sprint 200-400 Middle 400-600 Long 600+ Extreme. never been a fixed agreed band for racing terms under 240 miles to me is sprint ( my inland ) 240+ - 400's - middle distance 500+ long distance
DJWa Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Was always of the opinion, 0-200 Sprint 200-400 Middle 400-600 Long 600+ Extreme. intresting getting a few views on this john could be a diff outlook on this from the north secas some guys up here fly over 600 miles for all the channel races except ypresand you would class that as extreme distanceand i would class as distance
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Very interesting fact Lewis if you're right enough. Would be interesting to know how many done it from say '76 > '81, '86 > '91, '96 > '01, to see the comparisons to nowadays. I'll bet someone has all the results and could check it out, Finding them is the problem Leave it with me.I know the man who has them all I was able to get the Anderson Bros 1939 Rennes win from him-the last loft in my federation to have won the Gold Cup.As well as Johnny Kirkpatrick's "Coronation Express" race.
OLDYELLOW Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 intresting getting a few views on this john could be a diff outlook on this from the north secas some guys up here fly over 600 miles for all the channel races except ypresand you would class that as extreme distanceand i would class as distance When the guys in the SNFC are getting day birds at 600 miles plus then that to me is not extreme distance jmo 1000 miles plus now that's extreme distance more of a homing event than a race jmo Leave it with me.I know the man who has them all I was able to get the Anderson Bros 1939 Rennes win from him-the last loft in my federation to have won the Gold Cup.As well as Johnny Kirkpatrick's "Coronation Express" race.shame these weren't all added to the SNFC site be some good reading
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 When the guys in the SNFC are getting day birds at 600 miles plus then that to me is not extreme distance jmo 1000 miles plus now that's extreme distance more of a homing event than a race jmo shame these weren't all added to the SNFC site be some good reading http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/44356-coronation-express/page__p__637577__fromsearch__1entry637577 Theres the Johnny Kirkpatrick Rennes result I posted a while back. At the time I did not have a scanner.My mum got one last week,I'll try to work out how to use it this week
fid Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Sandy bain must surely be considered,I often wonder how many national positions sandy would have collected had he moved to duns 30/40yrs ago.He still knocks them in be it club,fed or national with great consistancy even now. Lang may continue.
sj irving jnr Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Very interesting fact Lewis if you're right enough. Would be interesting to know how many done it from say '76 > '81, '86 > '91, '96 > '01, to see the comparisons to nowadays. I'll bet someone has all the results and could check it out, Finding them is the problem if you are looking for fanciers from then to now,you could go back to 1978? and won another national this year j crombie of crombie & mechan nantes and another 2 fanciers of that race are still up with them nantes 1978 8th july 1576 birds lib at 6am in a north west wind 1 s1 j crombie annan 10162 s2 t little creca 9883 e1 r rae bonnyrigg 9534 s3 j m dalgliesh annan 9505 e2 d newcombe macmerry 9496 s4 a wilson locharbriggs 9437 e3 p virtue coburnspath 9278 e4 newcombe bros mcmerry 9259 e5 newcombe bros mcmerry 92410 e6 e brown hawick 921 27 1w j aikman lochwinnoch 876 n1 w masson inverallochy 790
OLDYELLOW Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Just love these old results keep them coming :emoticon-0137-clapping:
eastcoaster Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 When the guys in the SNFC are getting day birds at 600 miles plus then that to me is not extreme distance jmo 1000 miles plus now that's extreme distance more of a homing event than a race jmo shame these weren't all added to the SNFC site be some good reading I agree just the other day i was trying to find the 1955 gold cup result , the guy who won it J Hodgson gave me my first pigeons and one went on to score twice from the nationals .
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 been on the forum a few years now and always find these type of questions only cause problems,as a fancier who has studied scottish national flying club results for years and marvelled at top distance pigeons from all areas of scotland it can be unfair sometimes to fanciers in unfashionable locations as they can be timing exceptional pigeons which in all honesty have little or no chance of winning the race.jmo :)
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 if you are looking for fanciers from then to now,you could go back to 1978? and won another national this year j crombie of crombie & mechan nantes and another 2 fanciers of that race are still up with them nantes 1978 8th july 1576 birds lib at 6am in a north west wind 1 s1 j crombie annan 10162 s2 t little creca 9883 e1 r rae bonnyrigg 9534 s3 j m dalgliesh annan 9505 e2 d newcombe macmerry 9496 s4 a wilson locharbriggs 9437 e3 p virtue coburnspath 9278 e4 newcombe bros mcmerry 9259 e5 newcombe bros mcmerry 92410 e6 e brown hawick 921 27 1w j aikman lochwinnoch 876 n1 w masson inverallochy 790 Read about Crombie and Mechan in the Stud book this year.Dare I say it but they almost have a record better than John Hodgson
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 I agree just the other day i was trying to find the 1955 gold cup result , the guy who won it J Hodgson gave me my first pigeons and one went on to score twice from the nationals . i have a loft report on j hodgson of drem somewhere i think. :)
AR Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Just love these old results keep them coming :emoticon-0137-clapping:
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 It could just me be me,but I think North,South,East or West the name that makes the hairs stand up is Newcombe.
alec guinness Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 It could just me be me,but I think North,South,East or West the name that makes the hairs stand up is Newcombe. yes not far wrong lewis.
AR Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 I think the performances put up by rab Hamilton of campus in early nineties was fantastic.when u thinker won the east section averayes flying against competition from eyemouth in the south east to Montrose in the north east and his oft was probably one of the furthest west in the east section.I think he was also runner up in the overall averages as well.competition was a bit stuttering those days as well
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 I think the performances put up by rab Hamilton of campus in early nineties was fantastic.when u thinker won the east section averayes flying against competition from eyemouth in the south east to Montrose in the north east and his oft was probably one of the furthest west in the east section.I think he was also runner up in the overall averages as well.competition was a bit stuttering those days as well Top Class Ma da met him when he was on the tar motor at Tulloch homes in Carronshore.One of the best. Cannae forget Jock Reid and Ogilvies from our fed at National level.Results we can only deam about
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