With The Lanarkshire Going West

[Guest bigda]

Am no in Lanarkshire Danny, but a meetin for latecomers doesny sound right?

you might think this is acceptable practice in the national where one tribe comes to hoodwink the other, but this is the very thing i want the pilgrim's in the lanarkshire to do and have a in house vote, it is preventing a rigged vote and i would suggest the Nat member's follow suit, and are given the vote by post.prior

to joining as there are some noise coming from disgruntled members there also

[dal2]

you might think this is acceptable practice in the national where one tribe comes to hoodwink the other, but this is the very thing i want the pilgrim's in the lanarkshire to do and have a in house vote, it is preventing a rigged vote and i would suggest the Nat member's follow suit, and are given the vote by post.prior

to joining as there are some noise coming from disgruntled members there also

Quite agree wae a postal vote for a nat institute where the members have to cover hunners o miles to be there Danny but not for a FED meetin!!!! You say it should be a club decision but in the end you are affiliated and convoyed by the Lanarkshire Fed!

[Guest bigda]

i am sure i can call on budgie to call for a in house vote, in newmains, Alex Blythe for carluke, W Cummings coatbridge Sandy Stevens in dalzell G hark in motherwell Kelly Gillion, J lawrie,

T porter, E Hattie, R Russell, H Sloane, J Cameron, P white, W mcdermott, Bill Gordon, R jukes, K Buchanan, J finnan, P Hanlin, J Ballantyne, all good secretaries for there clubs.

[Guest bigda]

Quite agree wae a postal vote for a nat institute where the members have to cover hunners o miles to be there Danny but not for a FED meetin!!!! You say it should be a club decision but in the end you are affiliated and convoyed by the Lanarkshire Fed!

well it cant be right, that we are members of a club, with no teeth, and also in the shu, who we could also appeal our case to, in the interest of both west and east flying, for members votes to save the posability that there was a under hand at play.

[dal2]

well it cant be right, that we are members of a club, with no teeth, and also in the shu, who we could also appeal our case to, in the interest of both west and east flying, for members votes to save the posability that there was a under hand at play.

Did you get notification of a meetin discussin the race prog wae time and date on? If so where is yer grounds for appeal? Sorry Danny but thats the way its is mate! You should have went, along wae the majority that seemingly didny gan, put yer hand up at the appropriate time and then accepted the result!

 

In the Solway we had the same last year when the west section members( me included) had some appathy and didny bother travelin 20 miles and went EAST. Loads of members wer spittin the dummy sayin this and that but they all raced wae the fed and it was just the same as most years!

[Guest bigda]

when times like this happening, it is better to bring the mountain to Mohammad , there are 21 clubs so a vote can be easily counted west, or east, and next vote if its majority would be race points they would like then all involved

[Guest bigda]

Did you get notification of a meetin discussin the race prog wae time and date on? If so where is yer grounds for appeal? Sorry Danny but thats the way its is mate! You should have went, along wae the majority that seemingly didny gan, put yer hand up at the appropriate time and then accepted the result!

 

In the Solway we had the same last year when the west section members( me included) had some appathy and didny bother travelin 20 miles and went EAST. Loads of members wer spittin the dummy sayin this and that but they all raced wae the fed and it was just the same as most years!

our senario is diferant, have a hall that cant acomadate all members, there are guys going mob handed as was once the case to go east now this need to stop not saying it was the case with the west but in the interest of the doos the issues have to be what the members want with out there been a division. and to protect people that make a vote and not get ridicled should it be west or east that they go, one man one vote, simple if there is no room at the inn well you cant get in

[Guest bigda]

Did you get notification of a meetin discussin the race prog wae time and date on? If so where is yer grounds for appeal? Sorry Danny but thats the way its is mate! You should have went, along wae the majority that seemingly didny gan, put yer hand up at the appropriate time and then accepted the result!

 

In the Solway we had the same last year when the west section members( me included) had some appathy and didny bother travelin 20 miles and went EAST. Loads of members wer spittin the dummy sayin this and that but they all raced wae the fed and it was just the same as most years!

to answer you first few lines no we did not, get times and dates to start racing, and places to go, this is where the problems start from mob rule, and race points plucked from the sky, never checked out but that suits some, also as that 2 can be tinkered with for advantages more than the welfare of the doos, or to accommodate national flyers, as there race agm in later on in the year, and by that the national men to are hoodwinked in taking the lanarkshire with them, big can of worms here bigda here to let the cat out the bag,

[tyson]

if the vote had went east would you be asking for a revote dont think so the members that were interested attended the meeting and voted those that werent stayed away stop stirring sh** and accept the vote that was taken end off

[cemetary]

The decision has been made to fly the West route, you have just got to get on with it for a season, if it dosent work out, then change it next year Simples.

 

All the best for the guys flying the West route in 2012.

[sammy]

Your an Anarchist Danny :lol:

and a brainless wan :emoticon-0136-giggle: :emoticon-0136-giggle:we are going west accpet it and get on with it

[Guest WINGS 04]

to answer you first few lines no we did not, get times and dates to start racing, and places to go, this is where the problems start from mob rule, and race points plucked from the sky, never checked out but that suits some, also as that 2 can be tinkered with for advantages more than the welfare of the doos, or to accommodate national flyers, as there race agm in later on in the year, and by that the national men to are hoodwinked in taking the lanarkshire with them, big can of worms here bigda here to let the cat out the bag,

 

 

 

Danny we new when the race program agm was as we get the book about a year before it with all the dates in it as for the date we start there was 3 start dates at the agm to go from and the members that were ther pick the start date and there was no mob rule :emoticon-0167-beer:

[Guest bigda]

if the vote had went east would you be asking for a revote dont think so the members that were interested attended the meeting and voted those that werent stayed away stop stirring sh** and accept the vote that was taken end off

i am here only to stop mob rule i have guys saying it should be clubs disisions to go east or west not who ever turn up on the day as the chosen hall cant accomidate the members should they decide to go so the fed agm is showing lack of interest in its members, you can only get so manny in a mini, so it was wrong

not to provide for its members to attend if they did or did not attend that is not here or there. so on those grounds you are inviting mob rule,

[ALF]

i am here only to stop mob rule i have guys saying it should be clubs disisions to go east or west not who ever turn up on the day as the chosen hall cant accomidate the members should they decide to go so the fed agm is showing lack of interest in its members, you can only get so manny in a mini, so it was wrong

not to provide for its members to attend if they did or did not attend that is not here or there. so on those grounds you are inviting mob rule,

 

DANNY SEE TAE TELL YE THE TRUTH THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE BIGGEST LOAD OF P!SH ON THIS SITE THE HALL HAS HELD 150 PEOPLE IN THE PAST SO FOR YOU TO KEEP SAYING IT IS TOO SMALL WHEN ONLY 80 PEOPLE TURNED UP IS BULLSHIT....THERE WAS NO MOB RULE AS EAST V WEST WAS ONLY WON BY 4 VOTES IF I REMEMBER RIGHT SO YOUR MOB RULE CRAP IS OOT THE WINDAE AGAIN AND SEE IF YOU PUT AS MUCH TIME GOING TO MEETINGS AS YOU DO FIGHTING FOR THE PILGRIMS ON HERE MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE GOT YOUR DOOS DOON THE EAST ROUTE YOU SEEM TO WANT BUT WONT GET NEXT SEASON

[Guest jim lad]

Certainly go a long way towards that granted. Outside of following the leader, and whinging, most shoot themselves in the foot daily.

Own worse eminy is very apt and when a 'Good thing' is tried it is smothered with self promoted ego's and needless and ofty stupid scenario's.

The very worst thing that is oft repeated is 'I would, ... But you know the other wouldn't'. Meaning they leave dicesions to others - then whinge - and worse use it as reason for not attending meetings and supporting Clubs / Feds etc. down the line. Won't support 'Fund - raising' for instance yet want good 'Prize money paid out' and Cheaper birdage... but won't contribute to a 'Car Sale, a breeder buyer,a moot etc. etc. Ah is the fanciers Fickled... you can take it to the bank.

Know it is a little off this subject, and yet very much involves this subject.

I's say 'I they can't help basketing race nights... leave their birds at club for them to take back ... we refused theirs once and gave them half hour to sort their birds out ... worked wonders, but I was not asked to be president again lol. If they don't support 'Fundings', then not eligible for Cards and Prize money. etc. etc. But alas alack, as fully paid up members they ARE entitled to the same rights and priviledges as every one else.... mores the pity.

[Guest bigda]

Danny we new when the race program agm was as we get the book about a year before it with all the dates in it as for the date we start there was 3 start dates at the agm to go from and the members that were ther pick the start date and there was no mob rule :emoticon-0167-beer:

yes we knew of the agm, but i am saying it should be down to a vote from the clubs, as to where we are going, the fed should only be there to transport the birds, and arrange pool moneys in opens, and keep to race program, schedules, be it on the site, on time and on the said day nothing more that's what we pay them for,

dont forget we pay for privileges, and we deserve to get a hall to accommodate every paying member. not a basic hut, that some how seems to be made out, that. that, is the Hub of the federation.

we all have club premises, but there are none big enough to take 500 members, so rather than embarrass our self a vote between 21 member clubs decide where we go. then we tell the fed where we are going, the dog wags the tail, no the other way around

[ALF]

THE FED HUSNAE GOT 500 MEMBERS AND HUSNAE HAD AFOR A WHILE

[Guest bigda]

The decision has been made to fly the West route, you have just got to get on with it for a season, if it dosent work out, then change it next year Simples.

 

All the best for the guys flying the West route in 2012.

might not be as simple as that, i have nothing against this but

there are loads of guys feeling it should be club buissness i agree

there are not a big enough hall provided so simply let the clubs decide they are capable of having a vote at there meetings prior to the feds or at the end of the season.why are the guys that voted west all of a sudden scared i dont see it that way, it could again be the majority vote, not unless i have hit on something, and there was mob handed tacktics used here. prove me wrong have the vote let every one see we are civilised. in the lanarkshire fed

[Guest bigda]

THE FED HUSNAE GOT 500 MEMBERS AND HUSNAE HAD AFOR A WHILE

you are just trying to cause trouble here 450 then but the hut we use aint much bigger than a class room that holds 40 pupils and 80 at a squeeze its not right.

[ALF]

you are just trying to cause trouble here 450 then but the hut we use aint much bigger than a class room that holds 40 pupils and 80 at a squeeze its not right.

 

IT'S HAD 150 IN IT SO DONT START YER P!SH ON THAT WAN I CAN REMEMBER THE VOTES BEING IN THE 70'S FOR EACH PARTY ONLY 4 OR 5 YRS AGO

[Guest bigda]

DANNY SEE TAE TELL YE THE TRUTH THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE BIGGEST LOAD OF P!SH ON THIS SITE THE HALL HAS HELD 150 PEOPLE IN THE PAST SO FOR YOU TO KEEP SAYING IT IS TOO SMALL WHEN ONLY 80 PEOPLE TURNED UP IS BULLSHIT....THERE WAS NO MOB RULE AS EAST V WEST WAS ONLY WON BY 4 VOTES IF I REMEMBER RIGHT SO YOUR MOB RULE CRAP IS OOT THE WINDAE AGAIN AND SEE IF YOU PUT AS MUCH TIME GOING TO MEETINGS AS YOU DO FIGHTING FOR THE PILGRIMS ON HERE MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE GOT YOUR DOOS DOON THE EAST ROUTE YOU SEEM TO WANT BUT WONT GET NEXT SEASON

no so you now say 150 crammed into a hut no insurance, a possible fire hazard, no fire escapes, it get worse by the minute, no i never said any thing about going west that dose not bother me but its about preventing a mob rule scenario, developing as it did once before. and as 450 cant divide into 150,unless you want yer lips stuck to the windea the fed is in the wrong

[duncandoo]

no so you now say 150 crammed into a hut no insurance, a possible fire hazard, no fire escapes, it get worse by the minute, no i never said any thing about going west that dose not bother me but its about preventing a mob rule scenario, developing as it did once before. and as 450 cant divide into 150,unless you want yer lips stuck to the windea the fed is in the wrong

danny do you think that newmains give this hut for meetings for nothing,i am sure newmains flying club are paid for the time you are in the hall

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

I think most fanciers took it for granted that it would be east again as the racing we have had from the east have been good ,especially the old birds i dont remember EVER having a bad race with the old birds from the East ROUTE. Theres been losses but thats normal for any route.

 

What about the young birds Jim?? if i remember rightly there was only 6 members that went to Thirsk and Otterburn from Uddingston which is the second strongest club in Lanarkshire and this a club that took 1500 rings at the start of the year. Losses must have been really bad in the first 4 races for so little members to send even from Otterburn at 88 miles.

 

Truth be told the Uddingston members are needing to get of there backside and attend the fed meetings, for the last 5-6 years the only one your guaranteed to see from Uddingston is Davie McCaig.

[Roland]

Bigda, as you preferred footie watching .... a game that hasnae no effect on anything in your future, or sport, life style etc. to attending a meeting that you claim is so important NOW! Well simple put you have no ground to stand on at all. Nary good bleating now, the horse has gone, and the birds are going west! Simple... you have no right to another meeting. Yes it may pee you off... but not so much as missing a footie game eh apparently!

Should have put up then... and shut up now really as you are coming over as a spoilt brat that has kicked out the dummy, the rattle etc. You didnae care then... and have not right to voice or care now. simple that...

[Guest KING BILLY]

Bigda, as you preferred footie watching .... a game that hasnae no effect on anything in your future, or sport, life style etc. to attending a meeting that you claim is so important NOW! Well simple put you have no ground to stand on at all. Nary good bleating now, the horse has gone, and the birds are going west! Simple... you have no right to another meeting. Yes it may pee you off... but not so much as missing a footie game eh apparently!

Should have put up then... and shut up now really as you are coming over as a spoilt brat that has kicked out the dummy, the rattle etc. You didnae care then... and have not right to voice or care now. simple that...

bida your no good at fishing no ones takeing your bate o bigda youe are a fool yove only got a teny wensy tool only good for key holes abd wee lasys pee holes no for the pigeonbasics lol