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IB I DIDNA COME ON HERE TA MAKE A FOOL OOT O ANY BOADY BUT WHEN SOME idiot that thinks he knows some thing when every boady on here knowsYOU KNOW f all and starts refering them to ALF GARNET ITS A GOOD JOB ITS ON A COMPUTER as alf would go right down your f throat but as i said you may get your chance to say any thin to me in the near future was it not you that made a fool oot o a 10 year girl basics is hard up to allow you as a mod an a*s* would do a better job your better sucking the dummy as you only print a load o *hit*

 

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Ah, but was that the first time a country declared war on Hitlers Germany. Seem to me you are right regards WW2.

So unless an uprising or some semtic nation, or cause did - like the Jews - then I guess you win Old Yellow.

But the question was:

'....Can anyone tell me who declared War on Germany, before hostilities actually began in 1939.

 

That says BEFORE hostilities begand in 1939, and Obviously before the September of France and England's.

At last a student of historical fact, not blinded by propaganda .

 

Yes , Judea / Jews , Declared war on Germany March 24th 1933 .

 

Roland .......WIN'S

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YOU GOT SOME CHEEK TO SPEAK TO FOLK LIKE THAT I DONT AGREE WITH WALTER ALL THE TIME BUT AM A 100%

BEHIND HIM ON THIS AND I CAN TELL YER MATE WALTERBMASSON HAS WORKED HARD HIS ENTIRE LIFE IN SOME VERY DANGEROUS JOBS THAT YOU WOULD NEVER HAVE THE BOTTLE TO ATTEMPT GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND SMELL THE COFFEE WE THE HARD WORKERS HAD ENOUGH OF BEING RIPPED OFF ALL THESE FOLKS COMING TO THIS COUNTRY NEVER PAID NOWT IN GETTIN EVERY THING OUT ALL WRONG AND THATS MY OPINION AND I WORKED HARD ALL MY DAYS AND PROBALLY PAY MORE IN TAX THAN YOU WILL EVER MAKE

 

You do not know me and cannot know what work I can and cannot do. I am not on any high horse and offered my opinion which you have every right to disagree with as I have yours. Except, going by your tone it is obvious that you don't think I have any right to an opinion on this because you have a more dangerous job than me and 'probably' pay more tax than I earn. And you too have missed the point, all these folk coming into the country have paid into EC central fund which allows them to work throughout EC. Britain is part of EC.

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IB I DIDNA COME ON HERE TA MAKE A FOOL OOT O ANY BOADY BUT WHEN SOME idiot that thinks he knows some thing when every boady on here knowsYOU KNOW f all and starts refering them to ALF GARNET ITS A GOOD JOB ITS ON A COMPUTER as alf would go right down your f throat but as i said you may get your chance to say any thin to me in the near future was it not you that made a fool oot o a 10 year girl basics is hard up to allow you as a mod an a*s* would do a better job your better sucking the dummy as you only print a load o *hit*

 

well said Walter nothing but the truth you posted well done for having the balls to say what most are thinkin your spot on

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Don't really think the fact many migrants worked after, before the wars etc. matter.

They were housed and had wages. They do well in their' own parts of towns etc. and have their own customs and many relatives here and enjoy the hospitality we afford them. That is a two-way thing. So, to me, that is out of the equation of what we owe them. In real terms on that score nothing. They do every bit as well as the british in that regard.

As for the hardships and life’s given and taken on or behalf.... Well it was also in their’ own interest too. Sure we are mostly - and should be, that the polish women when enforce to make bullets and bombs etc. risked their life’s further making sure a vast percentage didn't work.

We DID, whether anyone likes it or not, utilised many of the peoples in our colonies, empire and commonwealth. So yes, we owe a debt of gratitude. Likewise too the millions of Russians that lost their lives.

Now as to where we draw the line under this is obviously open to debate.

There are many avenues opened and roads perhaps we should, or should have taken in regards helping and making them self-ssuffience. But we can't be held responsible, or help surely Barbaric, or evil regimes that have plundered and ravished, and murdered their’ own. The British all over again eh!

Many places can't or won't help themselves whether we wish it to be so or not. Fact that, and usually because of greed and power and an unfeeling government however they got in power.

Still too many believe that the so - called 'Super power' should marshal the world. Dictate and give embargoes or bribes to get their’ OWN way.

Maybe time is when people were left to fend, and get on with their own lives and countries as we have enough exploitation from our own governments to worry about without sticking our nose and £Billions into things nothing to do with us. but we do, and why. Money and power!

Look at the Chameleon this past month. Changed colours three times already over Libya, and now is trying to sit on the fence to see who comes out on top.... as Gadaffi seems to have turned the tables.

We have better things to do like the fact we are preparing to go to war with Argentina again.... to strengthen our position of 'Guarding the wealthy ones wealth.

There is Cow Clinton doing a Reagan and trying to convince the Argies to rebel and have what belongs to them. Spouting we no longer have an interest, wording lies like they will have the USA support 'LIES'! ... Then do like the USA and we did with Iraq in the early 90's ... leave them to it after exciting them to fight back etc..

Just why do we want to spend £Billions while slicing our Hospitals, police force, Curbing this and that, desecrating our forces...

Let sleeping dogs lie, and Lying dogs sleep I believe.

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You do not know me and cannot know what work I can and cannot do. I am not on any high horse and offered my opinion which you have every right to disagree with as I have yours. Except, going by your tone it is obvious that you don't think I have any right to an opinion on this because you have a more dangerous job than me and 'probably' pay more tax than I earn. And you too have missed the point, all these folk coming into the country have paid into EC central fund which allows them to work throughout EC. Britain is part of EC.

 

 

you must be a right retard you posted on here that your in a crap 12grand job

regards payed the ec balls to them whats britin got sweet fa there was one with me for 3 weeks he was gettin and claiming every thing and him workin well he aint now because i sent him on his way scrounger

bleedin this country dry we got pensioners on the poverty line

we got guys unemployed through no fault of their own gettin P*** money

not even what they where payin tax back look after our own first

time we was oot of the e c its a con and we are the conned

so dont try and snow me i been aroond too long your a joke man get a life and thats my opinion

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you must be a right retard you posted on here that your in a crap 12grand job

regards payed the ec balls to them whats britin got sweet fa there was one with me for 3 weeks he was gettin and claiming every thing and him workin well he aint now because i sent him on his way scrounger

bleedin this country dry we got pensioners on the poverty line

we got guys unemployed through no fault of their own gettin P*** money

not even what they where payin tax back look after our own first

time we was oot of the e c its a con and we are the conned

so dont try and snow me i been aroond too long your a joke man get a life and thats my opinion

KEEP them oot aw scammers and stuff the EC

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I did not disrespect our forefathers or our armed forces, you did that by showing comtempt for the people that I reminded you fought alongside them, and also gave their lives for Britain.

 

Nor did I say 'Poles' or anyone else were forced down mines by anyone. I was born in Lanarkshire and there is a large Lithuanian community there. Yes we called them 'Poles', and yes they were miners, most of Lanarkshire Coalfield had closed before I was born.

 

My point was that these people fought for Britain and freedom but in the process lost their own countries and their own freedoms through Stalin. Now we have hard won freedoms for all in Europe, but you would destroy that and prevent them coming back here. You disrespect muslim dress (frocks) yet I have no doubt what your view would be if anyone talked about about 'Scotsmen in skirts'. While your CV is impressive, your humanity certainly is not.

must say that kilts are traditional to our country folk in black letter boxes are not .. Never heard so much tripe for a long time :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:

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IB you are technically right because our work is being hijacked by Europeans and the norm is now the Minimum wage. We have been doing a heck of a lot of paying from taxes we have generated so that the people who have not done much paying can come and rip us off. The Employers love this because in many cases they pay under minium wage, provide accomadation of sorts and exploit the situation to death. It is not that I blame the Employers because they are being encouraged to do this sort of thing.

I doubt if anyone of us can win this aguement but surely you can see that we are very likely to loose on all counts. Food prices are now at a World wide high. Energy and fuel at record levels and likely to go higher. Some areas of the Country have almost perminent water shortages and it is costing the Earth. This Country is definately over populated and the population is rising fast. The Indiginous population was decreasing until the flood gates opened. We just can not suport the numbers of people who want to live here. I have Grandchildren and I fear for their futures because the Imigrants will be running things very soon now. Only the other day a application was put in for a Sharia Law Court in Cardiff. Perhaps this will be the future. Will our women be forced to wear head scarves and forgo education? I think we should call a halt right now before it is too late.

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IB YOU TALK COMPLETE AND UTTER RUBBISH, EVERY POST IS THE SAME WITH YOU.. CRAP.. YOU KNOW ALL. *expletive removed* ALL, YOU SILLY LITTLE BOY.

your damn right this idiot sorry for repeating but this plonker wants to fill this country with scammers and to make it worse oor troops are being laid on the dole na money ta pay there wages what a substitute of a man
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The Indiginous population was decreasing until the flood gates opened. We just can not suport the numbers of people who want to live here. I have Grandchildren and I fear for their futures because the Imigrants will be running things very soon now. Only the other day a application was put in for a Sharia Law Court in Cardiff. Perhaps this will be the future. Will our women be forced to wear head scarves and forgo education? I think we should call a halt right now before it is too late.

 

its already too late, this government and the previous one have sold the indiginous people down the river........they should be hung for treason.

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MY MATE IS A GAFFER FOR A FAIRLY BIG BUILDING OUTFIT THESE 2 POLES COME ON THE SITE OFFERED TO WORK FOR £2 HR LESS THAN THE GUYS ALREADY THERE HE TOLD THEM GET OFF THE SITE YER SCAB BASTS BEFORE YOUR LINCHED HE HASBEEN IN THE BUILDING GAME FOR 30YEAR NEVER SEEN THE LIKES OF IT THATS THE CRAP YER UP AGAINST IS THIS WHAT OUR COUNTRY IS COMING TO WHEN OUR OWN FOLKS LIVELY HOOD BEING TAKEN AWAY SEND THEM BACK HOME THE LOT OF THEM AND OOT THIS E C AS SOON AS POSSABLE WE ARE BEING MADE MUGS BY THESE FOLK

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1. you cannot compare ww2 with libya, iraq, or afghan.

2. you cannot compare iraq with afghan.

3. we ave already done the libya thing [fact]

no one decrys the effort and lives the none christian commonwealth troops gave in ww2 but this was for there benefit as

well remember the japanese were knocking on india's door [fact]

but the actions of many in this country is inciting a reaction

and the non reaction of certain communities to prevent this type of action against this country condems them to guilty by aasociation

as for sanctions against a regime how can these work

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1. you cannot compare ww2 with libya, iraq, or afghan.

2. you cannot compare iraq with afghan.

3. we ave already done the libya thing [fact]

no one decrys the effort and lives the none christian commonwealth troops gave in ww2 but this was for there benefit as

well remember the japanese were knocking on india's door [fact]

but the actions of many in this country is inciting a reaction

and the non reaction of certain communities to prevent this type of action against this country condems them to guilty by aasociation

as for sanctions against a regime how can these work

 

 

WELL SAID YOUNG MAN YOU GOT IT BANG ON LOOK AFTER OUR OWN FIRST

WE GOT AN OBLIGATION TO LOOK AFTER OUR FOLK FIRST AND ABOVE ALL

THERE IS AN AUCTION SOON ON THIS SITE FOR A WEE LASSIE WHERE OUR NAT HEALTH SHOULD BE LOOKIN AFTER BUT NO TOO DEAR WELL I FOR ONE LIKE MANY OTHERS DISAGREE AND THINK ITS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE RAISE FUNDS TO HELP

A WORTHY CAUSE AND THATS SAD THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT IT SHOULD BE HER RIGHT TO BE TREATED OUR NAT HEALTH SYSTEM WAS THE ENVY OF THE WORLD NOW ITS THE LAUGHIN STOCK WHAT A DAMN DISGRACE AND IMAGRENTS COME IN AND GET EVERY THING FOR NOWT TIME THIS WAS SORTED

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Walter and IB are both right, and yet BOTH wrong! Trouble is, one is talking about the 'Rights' I.e IB, whether we like it or not, relating facts and what Goverments have agreed to -with their hidden agendas well shielded. Plus he put a little moral fibre - again right - to support his claims.

 

Walter has sound foundings on the moral apsect, which of course will appease many, indeed much truth is spoken... Likewise Owen.

 

Black WF... well he is just using Bellows in flaming the fire and putting fuels to hieghten the flames lol. :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:

P.s. The goverment isn't interested in the rights of our O.A.P.'s or the Brave lads risking life and limb. Just in making wealth for the wealthy.

The soldier will get scanty compensations for lifes and limbs lost. The O.A.P's will have to be more thrifty. We will soon have to pay for doctors and dentist appointments, and hospitals will still put the 'Private' SECTIONS first and foremost. THEN the reason spouted will be 'You should have taken out insurances. You can't have a free bus pass, let alone a meal ticket. It is wrong to expect OTHERS to pay for you! It is, and will up to the 'Big Society' to have managed this. You want more police.... Pay for them etc. etc.... while we invest and give away £billions in overseas aid ---- Warfare and investments... for the rich!

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WELL SAID YOUNG MAN YOU GOT IT BANG ON LOOK AFTER OUR OWN FIRST

WE GOT AN OBLIGATION TO LOOK AFTER OUR FOLK FIRST AND ABOVE ALL

THERE IS AN AUCTION SOON ON THIS SITE FOR A WEE LASSIE WHERE OUR NAT HEALTH SHOULD BE LOOKIN AFTER BUT NO TOO DEAR WELL I FOR ONE LIKE MANY OTHERS DISAGREE AND THINK ITS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE RAISE FUNDS TO HELP

A WORTHY CAUSE AND THATS SAD THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT IT SHOULD BE HER RIGHT TO BE TREATED OUR NAT HEALTH SYSTEM WAS THE ENVY OF THE WORLD NOW ITS THE LAUGHIN STOCK WHAT A DAMN DISGRACE AND IMAGRENTS COME IN AND GET EVERY THING FOR NOWT TIME THIS WAS SORTED

 

ALAN LIKE YOU SAID ITS SAD WHEN OUR NHS WONT PAY FOR THE TREATMENT FOR WEE OLIVIA A INNOCENT YOUNG 6 YEAR OLD . HER MOTHER HAS TO PAY THE SPECIALISED UNIT IN GERMANY TO SEND THE YOUNG KIDS TREATMENT OVER TO ABERDEEN TO TREAT HER SHOCKING IS IT THE ONLY THING OUR NHS IS GIVING HER IS A BED IN THE HOSPITAL .

ONE OF MY MATES WORKS IN A FISH YARD IN FRASERBURGH IN THE DEPARTMENT HE WORKS IN THERE WAS 25 PEOPLE WORKING AND HE WAS THE ONLY LOCAL GUY THE REST WERE FOREIGNERS SHOCKING IS IT THE WAY THIS COUNTRY IS GOING .

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Walter and IB are both right, and yet BOTH wrong! Trouble is, one is talking about the 'Rights' I.e IB, whether wi like it or not, relating facts and what Goverments have agreed to -with their hidden agendas well shielded. Plus he has put a little moral fibre - again right - to support his claims.

 

Walter has sound foundings on the moral apsect, which of course will appease many, indeed much truth is spoken... Likewise Owen.

 

Black WF... well he is just using Bellows in flaming the fire and putting fuels to hieghten the flames lol. :emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:

ROLAND YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG I AM A PAST UNION COMMITTEE MEMBER FOPR 10YEARS AN FOC FOR 15 AND ALWEAYS FOUGHT FOR WHATS RIGHT

IB IS SO FULL OF HIS OWN IMPORTANCE ITS NO REAL WHERE AS WALTER IS A REALIST FIGHTS FOR WHATS RIGHT AND MORE IMPORTANT IS AT HOME WITH WHAT HONEST FOLK WANT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY AND AN HONEST DAYS WORK FOR A FAIR DAYS PAY NOT GETTIN RIPPED OFF BY THESE EC MIGRANTS TIME WE WAS OOT AND THEY CAN GET TO FK

E C

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