lanarkshire lad Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Is there any goshawks in Lanarkshire area ? i mean down at peebles crawford biggar ETC.
just ask me Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 there some killer i think even worse than the sparrow hawk or falcon
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 there some killer i think even worse than the sparrow hawk or falcon keep them away fae lanarkshire then lol
billt Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Is there any goshawks in Lanarkshire area ? i mean down at peebles crawford biggar ETC.They like forestry, fir trees and are due back about now, I think they migrate to Europe over winter
lanarkshire lad Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 there some killer i think even worse than the sparrow hawk or falcon Agree but ive no heard of any in the Lanarkshire area ? but i could be wrong.
just ask me Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Agree but ive no heard of any in the Lanarkshire area ? but i could be wrong. i wouldn't know mate but they are some hunter pigeon stand no chance if they do catch hold like the peregrine well it would really be a end to our sport
lanarkshire lad Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 i wouldn't know mate but they are some hunter pigeon stand no chance if they do catch hold like the peregrine well it would really be a end to our sportBut would a goshawk go into a batch of doos racing across the sky.??
billt Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 But would a goshawk go into a batch of doos racing across the sky.??No It's not the way they hunt, usually attack when birds are on the ground but come in at speed so can take them in the air when they take flight
W.D. Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 There were some released a few years ago in the Forestry Commission land surrounding Limerigg, next to Slammanan, on the lanarkshire borders.I have family who live there and they said they were being fed at first to get them established, and watched over day and night.A couple of these moved down to our area and caused problems for a while, then they just seemed to move away.The first time I saw them I wondered what the hell they were.They didn't seem to hold much fear of humans, whether they were reared, or used to them I dont know, but they would circle around the loft whilst I was standing in front of it, no doubt attracted by seeing the birds in the aviary, at one time nearly landing on it, not nice for them!!!
just ask me Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 There were some released a few years ago in the Forestry Commission land surrounding Limerigg, next to Slammanan, on the lanarkshire borders.I have family who live there and they said they were being fed at first to get them established, and watched over day and night.A couple of these moved down to our area and caused problems for a while, then they just seemed to move away.The first time I saw them I wondered what the hell they were.They didn't seem to hold much fear of humans, whether they were reared, or used to them I dont know, but they would circle around the loft whilst I was standing in front of it, no doubt attracted by seeing the birds in the aviary, at one time nearly landing on it, not nice for them!!! these were most likely hand reared as the goshawk is the most shy of bop and the most secretive nesting mostly in thick forest
W.D. Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 these were most likely hand reared as the goshawk is the most shy of bop and the most secretive nesting mostly in thick forestThey must have been hand reared like you say, because these were anything but shy!
sapper756 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 http://www.paconserve.org/e-conserve/fall-05/goshawk-big.jpg
W.D. Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Aye thats the bugger did he emigrate to Fife Sapper?
yeboah Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Can spot them flying at a distance much longer tail than the sparrowhawk ,gamekeepers call them the flying fox ,they are lethal,wildlife friend of mine has identified a nest site approx one and half mile south of town he was complaining as they were killing the kestrel and owl which were among other remains that he found ,not had them take a bird in flight yet but would think they are more than capable ,they have been quite common down here for a number of years now
just ask me Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 they would take a bird n flight with no problem at all they hunt similar to a lurcher on a rabbit best way i can describe it
Guest IB Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 First told about them 4/5 years ago when training my birds from Newcraighall railway station, east? lothian about 25 miles away - a man travelling to work from there told me that he used to have pigeons, but goshawk had got all of them, ending with a strange remark 'well someones got to feed them, haven't they'. Next report was 2 years ago, and nearer to home - too near, only 500 yards away - a club mate spotted a hawk he couldn't identify, 'lot of white about it'. That bird turned up a week later in a wood shed in Grangemouth, 2 clubmates working there saw it in action, they still didn't know what it was, but all 3 later identified it (from a book) as a goshawk. It went on to kill every feral in the wood shed that winter. Leaves only the legs. These birds are full introductions into Britain, from Norway.
Guest Owen Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 We have quite a lot of Gos around here in the forestry. One Guy has a small farm close to the trees and has a big problem with them taking his pigeons, ducks and chickens. The good thing is that people soon become aware of them due to the fact that they are really nasty killers of anything, fur or feather and they soon run out of friends. They become fixated on their prey and will always return to kills. It is this fact that makes them vulnerable and easy to trap.In this area we have had to deal with all three BOP over a long period of time. The most difficult to deal with is the Peregrine because he is so very hard to get at although a lot seem to get killed every year. Sparrow Hawks are a nuisance but can always be relied upon to attack aviaries containing small birds like canaries, budgies and cockatiels so you will always be forewarned as to their presence. These days most of us never allow our birds to walk about unattended and take a bath in the open so the birds are far less exposed than they used to be. The down side is that a lot of Sparrowhawks have learned to attack pigeons in the air and ride them down to the ground, which is very hard to counteract.
lanarkshire lad Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 We have quite a lot of Gos around here in the forestry. One Guy has a small farm close to the trees and has a big problem with them taking his pigeons, ducks and chickens. The good thing is that people soon become aware of them due to the fact that they are really nasty killers of anything, fur or feather and they soon run out of friends. They become fixated on their prey and will always return to kills. It is this fact that makes them vulnerable and easy to trap.In this area we have had to deal with all three BOP over a long period of time. The most difficult to deal with is the Peregrine because he is so very hard to get at although a lot seem to get killed every year. Sparrow Hawks are a nuisance but can always be relied upon to attack aviaries containing small birds like canaries, budgies and cockatiels so you will always be forewarned as to their presence. These days most of us never allow our birds to walk about unattended and take a bath in the open so the birds are far less exposed than they used to be. The down side is that a lot of Sparrowhawks have learned to attack pigeons in the air and ride them down to the ground, which is very hard to counteract.Never seen them attack in the air unless there close to the ground.
yeboah Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Never seen them attack in the air unless there close to the ground.Never had them attack in air either pigeons just circle round them ,but had pigeon struck on ground and had to kick it of ,but when pigeon tries to escape it will then fly after it and catch it at low level sometimes hundreds of yards away had to kick the same hawk of twice within minutes one night ,never was any good at penalty's
leslie24williams49 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 But would a goshawk go into a batch of doos racing across the sky.?? i have seen one diving after pigeons in the air like a falcon...they are causing a lot of trouble here in the valleys in s.wales...last year we had one fly in through the open trap and fly around inside the loft...this was A COCK BIRD ..it killed one of our birds ...after which we never saw it again
lanarkshire lad Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 Never had them attack in air either pigeons just circle round them ,but had pigeon struck on ground and had to kick it of ,but when pigeon tries to escape it will then fly after it and catch it at low level sometimes hundreds of yards away had to kick the same hawk of twice within minutes one night ,never was any good at penalty's I futtin hate the barstewards by the way.
lanarkshire lad Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 I futtin hate the barstewards by the way.By the way my son one of my boys does a bit of shooting in the local woods and hes come across a few in the woods injured ones i am talking about.He always trys to make them better.He also has found a few nests with young in them but they always seem to dissapear.I dont know where they go to.
glenrandal Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 saw one attack like a peregrin falcon took a young one off the roof of a house to trhe ground...
sapper756 Posted January 29, 2011 Report Posted January 29, 2011 Aye thats the bugger did he emigrate to Fife Sapper? I,m sure if he does, the fife lads will take care of ithttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0136-giggle.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0136-giggle.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0136-giggle.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/scotland.gif
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