Lanarkshire Fed 2011 Race Programme

[frank-123]

worked for me this year bovingdon then reims for my bird

john would you prefer a long race a week before the gold cup and is this the norm for most gold cup birds?

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

not sure about the lanarkshire peterbourgh race frank,but pretty sure the SNFC will be at the english coast the week before the gold cup.

John, having the inland national the week before the Gold cup has a very negative effect on the entry for the main race of the SNFC calender, jmo but something has to change, can't have another year were there is only 1200 doos sent to the G.C

[JohnQuinn]

I'm no certain but will the SNFC Gold Cup no be the 29th of the month?? The Last Friday of June, If so it solves one or two of the issue's here.

[andy]

worked for me this year bovingdon then reims for my bird

john would you prefer a long race a week before the gold cup and is this the norm for most gold cup birds?

Me too,

Agree with your post 100%

 

I'm no certain but will the SNFC Gold Cup no be the 29th of the month?? If so it solves one or two of the issue's here.

John,

I think Fri 24th June for Gold Cup race.

[dava]

if bovingdon is still the first sat in june and the snfc drop eastbourne the easy optoin would be for lanarkshire fed to go on there own to there longest inland open race and then go with the snfc for the chanel race from ypres if it is kept

[alec guinness]

John, having the inland national the week before the Gold cup has a very negative effect on the entry for the main race of the SNFC calender, jmo but something has to change, can't have another year were there is only 1200 doos sent to the G.C

 

 

not so Gareth imo,traditionally we have always had a coast race the week before the gold cup either federation or national since time began, i still dont think this has a bearing on the gold cup,the problem is ypres/clermont one of these has to go too many having to spread their teams to accommadate. ;)

[alec guinness]

worked for me this year bovingdon then reims for my bird

john would you prefer a long race a week before the gold cup and is this the norm for most gold cup birds?

 

not for me frank,the hen we timed at reims was at peterbourgh and the other birds home were at bovingdon,imo eastbourne is for yearlings and birds for the last race frank.ps we have scored from the gold cup with a hen that flew the coast on the previous saturday but not ideal preparation. :)

[Delboy]

food for thought here, imagine the Gold cup was the duplication race. Think of the birdage the main event would have I think it would have to be brought back 25-30 miles and maybe flown on first week in July.

 

Programme, Ypres 4th June, Eastbourne 18th June, Gold Cup 1st July( duplication race ), 9th July Tours

 

This means that your Ypres doos could get doubled back into either Gold Cup or longest race.

[yeboah]

not for me frank,the hen we timed at reims was at peterbourgh and the other birds home were at bovingdon,imo eastbourne is for yearlings and birds for the last race frank.ps we have scored from the gold cup with a hen that flew the coast on the previous saturday but not ideal preparation. :)

 

Hello Alec

 

If you have a race from the coast any chance some of us could go as trainers

 

We could pay our way . perhahps you could use the entry as a nominated bird

 

Thanks Mick

[hotrod]

not for me frank,the hen we timed at reims was at peterbourgh and the other birds home were at bovingdon,imo eastbourne is for yearlings and birds for the last race frank.ps we have scored from the gold cup with a hen that flew the coast on the previous saturday but not ideal preparation. :)

i would think it would all depend on the race the week before john ,an easy race then in u go but a hard one could put them back. i also dont think having an inland national the week before the big one affects the entry ,last season was a bit of a dissaster especially in the west with lots of losses in the fed programs ,bad races in feds equates to bad entries in the nationals imho.

 

food for thought here, imagine the Gold cup was the duplication race. Think of the birdage the main event would have I think it would have to be brought back 25-30 miles and maybe flown on first week in July.

 

Programme, Ypres 4th June, Eastbourne 18th June, Gold Cup 1st July( duplication race ), 9th July Tours

 

This means that your Ypres doos could get doubled back into either Gold Cup or longest race.

great derick but could you imagine someone not dublicating having a higher velocity than the winner of the coveted gold cup ?

[frank-123]

food for thought here, imagine the Gold cup was the duplication race. Think of the birdage the main event would have I think it would have to be brought back 25-30 miles and maybe flown on first week in July.

 

Programme, Ypres 4th June, Eastbourne 18th June, Gold Cup 1st July( duplication race ), 9th July Tours

 

This means that your Ypres doos could get doubled back into either Gold Cup or longest race.

 

that would mean a 220 mile jump from newark to ypres for lanarkshire members

[Delboy]

i would think it would all depend on the race the week before john ,an easy race then in u go but a hard one could put them back. i also dont think having an inland national the week before the big one affects the entry ,last season was a bit of a dissaster especially in the west with lots of losses in the fed programs ,bad races in feds equates to bad entries in the nationals imho.

 

 

great derick but could you imagine someone not dublicating having a higher velocity than the winner of the coveted gold cup ?

 

 

they wouldnt take the chance for the sake of a tenner m8

 

that would mean a 220 mile jump from newark to ypres for lanarkshire members

 

 

we went to Sartilly for years Frank, an even bigger jump.The doos do it no probs

[frank-123]

if bovingdon is still the first sat in june and the snfc drop eastbourne the easy optoin would be for lanarkshire fed to go on there own to there longest inland open race and then go with the snfc for the chanel race from ypres if it is kept

 

it would be a big loss money wise to go on there own davie

[hotrod]

they wouldnt take the chance for the sake of a tenner m8

 

to me its a no brainer pay yer dough and take your chance but hey ,someone out there might be a bit tight ,and then what would that mean for the winner ? as someone says its a bad entry for the big one (1200birds) i agree with j.h .too many races. get back to 3 overseas races then the birdage would go up in each.

 

 

we went to Sartilly for years Frank, an even bigger jump.The doos do it no probs

[frank-123]

happened a few times already in duplication races stuart

wonder if in a few years anyone will remember the owners of the non duplicated pigeons but they will not forget the national winners

[Guest stb-]

they wouldnt take the chance for the sake of a tenner m8

 

 

 

 

we went to Sartilly for years Frank, an even bigger jump.The doos do it no probs

aye a always jumped them from burscough 180 or stafford 232 into sartilly 510 mls before so a cant see a jump from newark to ypres being a prob

[frank-123]

right get the message thanks to the camp boys

[hotrod]

happened a few times already in duplication races stuart

wonder if in a few years anyone will remember the owners of the non duplicated pigeons but they will not forget the national winners

yes your right frank but i know if it was me and i won the gold cup but someone in the convoy beat me then (fk that)? as far as i can say you would always have some smart ar$e bringing it up you won the gold cup but didny win the race .better leave the gold cup as it is members only ,but do something to up the birdage (see what race or races are hurting the entry and sort it) .

[Rebus]

not so Gareth imo,traditionally we have always had a coast race the week before the gold cup either federation or national since time began, i still dont think this has a bearing on the gold cup,the problem is ypres/clermont one of these has to go too many having to spread their teams to accommadate. ;)

Surely not sugesting that the SNFC drop a channel race in favour of an inland one, the club was founded on long distance racing not inland.

[hotrod]

Surely not sugesting that the SNFC drop a channel race in favour of an inland one, the club was founded on long distance racing not inland.

i agree jock.( long distance club) but drop a channel race (ypres or clermont or falaise)but also drop the inland kiddy on races.the watch the birdage go up for the other 3 races .

[alec guinness]

Surely not sugesting that the SNFC drop a channel race in favour of an inland one, the club was founded on long distance racing not inland.

 

dont think we have the doos for four channel races jock,imo if the members want two inland races and 10,000 doos entered canny be wrong for the first two nationals,why not distances from 300-600 (central scotland) miles is catering for the whole scottish fancy,with less doomen we need a programme that caters for all.

 

5 old bird races,distance to me, 330mls

400mls

460mls

580mls

630mls. looks not to bad too me. :) :)

[Rebus]

i agree jock.( long distance club) but drop a channel race (ypres or clermont or falaise)but also drop the inland kiddy on races.the watch the birdage go up for the other 3 races .

The July race Clermont/Falaise is an established race on the clubs progamme and should stay, if any channel race is to be dropped it must be Ypres, and yes that would help the birdage in the Gold Cup race.

[Delboy]

yes your right frank but i know if it was me and i won the gold cup but someone in the convoy beat me then (fk that)? as far as i can say you would always have some smart ar$e bringing it up you won the gold cup but didny win the race .better leave the gold cup as it is members only ,but do something to up the birdage (see what race or races are hurting the entry and sort it) .

 

 

Dont think anyone would miss the chance of winning top prize money in Gold cup for the sake of a tenner but if they took the chance, how foolish would they look if they got a good yin.

[lanarkshire lad]

The July race Clermont/Falaise is an established race on the clubs progamme and should stay, if any channel race is to be dropped it must be Ypres, and yes that would help the birdage in the Gold Cup race.

I agree ypres should be dropped its a poor substitute for a 500+mile channel race.

[frank-123]

sadly seems to me more guys would be happy to win 300-400 mile races rather than the 500 mile races

so that's why the numbers are down