Distance Racing.

[alex young]

Just wondering what strains of pigeons handle the distance into Scotland the best? A few years ago while talking to a fancier from Larkhall,he said in his opinion most of the imports could not handle the last leg of the journey into Scotland due to the terrain and the temperature drop.He did say one of the exceptions was the Van-Hee,has this changed at all.

[kirky]

my kirkpatricks have flown well into scotland for them that have had them from me,

[sapper756]

Van Hee, Kirkpatricks, Stichelbaut, Jan Aardens,http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[Guest pigeonguy147]

Van Hee, Kirkpatricks, Stichelbaut, Jan Aardens,

i hope my bricoux x brakkuis will be a good cross to come into this side of scotland early signs are looking good but will take at least two years to find out [watch this space]

[sapper756]

i hope my bricoux x brakkuis will be a good cross to come into this side of scotland early signs are looking good but will take at least two years to find out [watch this space]

 

 

Good luck with them m8http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif keep us upto speed with how they dohttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[OLDYELLOW]

Van Hee, Kirkpatricks, Stichelbaut, Jan Aardens,

will agree with those strains

[OLDYELLOW]

i hope my bricoux x brakkuis will be a good cross to come into this side of scotland early signs are looking good but will take at least two years to find out [watch this space]

brakkuis = are Sticklebault based birds as for bricoux they are in the Kirkpatrick strain of birds so i'd image they'd do well

[dal2]

Any good doo will win anywhere frae any distance as long as the fancier and his/her methods are correct

[JohnJ]

Any good doo will win anywhere frae any distance as long as the fancier and his/her methods are correct

ur 100% mate spot on

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Any good doo will win anywhere frae any distance as long as the fancier and his/her methods are correct

 

Hi Steven these type of pigeons are few and far between and maybe only come around a few times in a decade so i would classify them as exception pigeons.

 

There are and have been plenty of good doos out there that may have won many times or won a big race flying from 500 miles to a location in one area of the UK but this does not mean that they will automatically win and deal with conditions of a different area of the UK. JMO

[PIGEON_MAN]

Any good doo will win anywhere frae any distance as long as the fancier and his/her methods are correct

So in your opinion would it be right to say that strains dont come into then.

[dal2]

Hi Steven these type of pigeons are few and far between and maybe only come around a few times in a decade so i would classify them as exception pigeons.

 

There are and have been plenty of good doos out there that may have won many times or won a big race flying from 500 miles to a location in one area of the UK but this does not mean that they will automatically win and deal with conditions of a different area of the UK. JMO

 

 

Ye your right Gareth the pigeons are probs exeptional but still think that breed has not got the distance boundarires thet a lot of fanciers, and sellers, think they have. Feedin and motivation are everything in pigeon racin from 50 miles tae 500 miles and loads of so called sprint doos have excelled from the distance. If we look on the back of the BHW every week we will see the Van Reet family of doos classed as a sprint family. I can honestly say that this is not the case?

 

On the other hand consistently there are strains that always do the job when the chips are down. This is maybe why the cross is the best???

 

Cheers Steven

[dal2]

So in your opinion would it be right to say that strains dont come into then.

 

 

I would say that when you know yer strain that you keep you will know exactly what they are capable of. But the way you race them is the key to what distance you can go to.

[Delboy]

Any good doo will win anywhere frae any distance as long as the fancier and his/her methods are correct

 

 

Thats not altogether true m8. Location, wind and drag determine the winners. If you have good doos and good methods and a bad post code you will struggle to hit the top spots.

[dal2]

Thats not altogether true m8. Location, wind and drag determine the winners. If you have good doos and good methods and a bad post code you will struggle to hit the top spots.

 

 

Ye thats defo a factor. I put Henry Dobies young birds thru at the marking for Laicester SNFC. Now I never comment usually on others doos but these were in fantastic order and fitted my hand like a glove, shinin like a shillin they wer. I said tae Henry that they wer right up my street and he replied that at his place(way West) he didny fancy his chances??? 1st sectA!

[yeboah]

Hi Steven these type of pigeons are few and far between and maybe only come around a few times in a decade so i would classify them as exception pigeons.

 

There are and have been plenty of good doos out there that may have won many times or won a big race flying from 500 miles to a location in one area of the UK but this does not mean that they will automatically win and deal with conditions of a different area of the UK. JMO

 

 

Hello Gareth ,

 

Best distance family i had by a mile were bred from blue cock from mc ivor brothers carnwath

 

Tinto Goldmine paired to cheq hen that was fourteenth open nantes ,down from late jim souter

 

Brydekirk bloodlines

 

EVERYONE that was sent to a five hundred mile race bred from this pair scored ,got the diplomas

 

as proof ,one hen scored three times on day of liberation from rennes flying 15 , 16 ,16 HALF

 

Hours on wing into nw wind each time and beating over 7500 birds each time her best performance

 

was 7th section 30th open when flying 16 half hours ,she bred a youngster when she was ten years

 

old that topped the fed ,in turn she bred a blue wf cock when she was ten years old ,he is now

 

fifteen and has just produced a youngster that is his double ,these birds had feathered feet

 

perhaps gits ? a wonderful family do you no of anyone that may still have the origanal mc ivor

 

bloodlines JUST GOOD HONEST OLD SCOTTISH DOOS .

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Hello Gareth ,

 

Best distance family i had by a mile were bred from blue cock from mc ivor brothers carnwath

 

Tinto Goldmine paired to cheq hen that was fourteenth open nantes ,down from late jim souter

 

Brydekirk bloodlines

 

EVERYONE that was sent to a five hundred mile race bred from this pair scored ,got the diplomas

 

as proof ,one hen scored three times on day of liberation from rennes flying 15 , 16 ,16 HALF

 

Hours on wing into nw wind each time and beating over 7500 birds each time her best performance

 

was 7th section 30th open when flying 16 half hours ,she bred a youngster when she was ten years

 

old that topped the fed ,in turn she bred a blue wf cock when she was ten years old ,he is now

 

fifteen and has just produced a youngster that is his double ,these birds had feathered feet

 

perhaps gits ? a wonderful family do you no of anyone that may still have the origanal mc ivor

 

bloodlines JUST GOOD HONEST OLD SCOTTISH DOOS .

 

Hi Mike

Cant think of anyone who has maintained the family pure. As time goes on this successful family of pigeons will have been diluted with crosses and many fanciers have used the McIvor bloodline as a base of their loft in the west of Scotland and further afield.

[yeboah]

Hi Mike

Cant think of anyone who has maintained the family pure. As time goes on this successful family of pigeons will have been diluted with crosses and many fanciers have used the McIvor bloodline as a base of their loft in the west of Scotland and further afield.

 

Thanks Gareth

 

Thats the beauty of breeding from very old pigeons

[Delboy]

Thanks Gareth

 

Thats the beauty of breeding from very old pigeons

 

 

Dont tell Budgie yer breeding from very old birds

[caitlin]

Thats not altogether true m8. Location, wind and drag determine the winners. If you have good doos and good methods and a bad post code you will struggle to hit the top spots.

did not stop ur good pigeon winning when there right at ur postcode. unless u moved house

[blaz]

on the subject of distance birds racing in to Scotland has anyone tried racing florozone pigeons in to Scotland.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Have had LVC pigeons which have a large % of the Floorizone bloodlines, got 3 hens with one of them breeding 2 nd section Alencon with the second one breeding a cock that was 2 nd section Tours + a brother who was 7th section Falaise unfortunatley they escaped in the first year of breeding from them. May add that they were crossed.

[budgie]

Pigeons with slow wing beat and bred from generations of 500 milers .

[alec guinness]

Pigeons with slow wing beat and bred from generations of 500 milers .

 

spot on budgie boy. ;)

[budgie]

Dont tell Budgie yer breeding from very old birds

As long as they are in the 2% and and pre-potent you should have no worries.Its the ones that they are trying to off-load 6,7,8,9,10 that come with no warranty.