budgie Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 How many fanciers just change their water without rinsing and would you consider washing them out daily with hot water .If your wife gave you the same mug every day without cleaning it would you drink from it.If we have problems the first thing most of us head for is the drinkers.And on another note how many fanciers before they pair up can be bothered to disinfect and pressure wash the complete loft.It makes some mess but on completion you will be pleasantly surprised at how clean your floor is and the crap that has been build up over the years finally removed. ;)
ribble Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Every time i change the water i use a new bowl that is completely dry.
b.massey Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Think the problem with having drinkers so so clean is that when the birds go to races and drink out of the big shared drinkers they are more likely to catch something. A bird that is not so used to drinking from very clean drinker will build up an amune system where as birds that are used to the cleaned every day drinker will have a lower amune system and more likely to pick something up.
Guest marksimpson Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Think the problem with having drinkers so so clean is that when the birds go to races and drink out of the big shared drinkers they are more likely to catch something. A bird that is not so used to drinking from very clean drinker will build up an amune system where as birds that are used to the cleaned every day drinker will have a lower amune system and more likely to pick something up. fair comment on building up amune systeams
Guest IB Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I consider myself fortunate to have a back garden loft and have no problems in washing my drinkers in hot water & antibacterial washing-up liquid, daily in winter, twice daily at all other times. I also have a hygiene routine which utilises dry disinfectant sprinkled on my deep litter, on my walls & floor, box & bar perches, nest box floors, and nest bowls.
Guest marksimpson Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Think the problem with having drinkers so so clean is that when the birds go to races and drink out of the big shared drinkers they are more likely to catch something. A bird that is not so used to drinking from very clean drinker will build up an amune system where as birds that are used to the cleaned every day drinker will have a lower amune system and more likely to pick something up. fair comment on building up amune systeams
frank-123 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 cleaned my breeding loft out september disinfected it then sprayed the whole loft nest boxes walls the lot in creosote moved the cocks back in last week with easi bed on the floor that will be lifted before the season starts so i can scrape twice a day the drinkers i rinse everday bleach once a month
Guest strapper Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 tip for you...tea spoon of bleach in your drinker each time you fill them up. i read once...that an american vet used a tea spoon full of bleach in all drinkers and was only member in his club NOT to have youngbird sickness plus other minor bugs. remember that its a tea spoon...the smallest one not a table spoon lol.
b.massey Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 tip for you...tea spoon of bleach in your drinker. i read once...that an american vet used a tea spoon full of bleach in all drinkers and was only member in his club NOT to have youngbird sickness plus other minor bugs. remember that its a tea spoon...the smallest one not a table spoon lol. Intresting m8
kirky Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Think the problem with having drinkers so so clean is that when the birds go to races and drink out of the big shared drinkers they are more likely to catch something. A bird that is not so used to drinking from very clean drinker will build up an amune system where as birds that are used to the cleaned every day drinker will have a lower amune system and more likely to pick something up. spot on i never clean my drinkers during racing ob or ybs just rince them, replace them new each year, and dont treat for anything never seen yb sickness.
frank-123 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 oh no strapper bleach and ib don't agree
Guest strapper Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 spot on i never clean my drinkers during racing ob or ybs just rince them, replace them new each year, and dont treat for anything never seen yb sickness. there are lots of fanciers who have never seen youngbird sickness untill recent years.
Guest strapper Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 oh no strapper bleach and ib don't agree ive used dettol lol
REDCHEQHEN Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I use enviroboost in the water - now and again ( and it is for use in the drinkers ) but the other day I decided to wash the drinkers in it using a higher concentration - 5 ml to a litre is recommended - I used 15 ml to a large bucket full without realising there was a pestle in it - reconstituted marble - with varnish on it - well it stripped the varnish within seconds - all bubbled off Enviroboost is an organic acid appears to be useful as a paint stripper as well I think I shall have to send them an e-mail (Osmonds)
Roland Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 To be honest, it is surely the second day, and forward that the water is better for the birds. Ok leave it over night....
Lennut Tar Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 tip for you...tea spoon of bleach in your drinker each time you fill them up. i read once...that an american vet used a tea spoon full of bleach in all drinkers and was only member in his club NOT to have youngbird sickness plus other minor bugs. remember that its a tea spoon...the smallest one not a table spoon lol. Could be wrong ;D ;D ;D either that ??????? or you have Big Big drinkers etc ;) . I think you might just find etc, that it's 1 teaspoon per gallon around 3.75 litres US. In our scale of things I often use 1 teaspoon per bucket 10 litres, & I've always been more than happy with that. Enjoy.
Wiley Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 a good flier who has now passed used to let algae lie on top of his drinker he would just top up daily, but never remove the algae, he said the birds prefered it as it was more natural, he was at the top of the game for a good few years untill he passed away. personally wouldnt do it myself but never stopped him winning out of turn
pjc Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I was at a friends a few weeks ago and he was telling me a story about a local very succesful fancier. When this fancier was getting old a few of the local lads would go and give him a hand, on day my friend popped around and the fancier was missing so he went in cleaned out the lofts and scrubbed the drinkers as they were all green. When the fancier came back he hit the roof, not because the loft was clean but purely because the algae had been removed from his drinkers and it would take weeks to get them back in the condition he kept them in!
stantheman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 slightly off the subject but thought its useful info my terrier is now 10 years old and has NEVER drunk fresh water he point blank refuses the water put down for him and drinks out of our water feature on the patio we have to keep topping it up the water feature has a green algae build up but it does not bother the dog and hes as fit as a fiddle and if you saw him you would think hes about 3 years old, i now do same with birds and just top up the drinkers and since doing this i have had no health problems with the birds at all
stantheman Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 slightly off the subject but thought its useful info my terrier is now 10 years old and has NEVER drunk fresh water he point blank refuses the water put down for him and drinks out of our water feature on the patio we have to keep topping it up the water feature has a green algae build up but it does not bother the dog and hes as fit as a fiddle and if you saw him you would think hes about 3 years old, i now do same with birds and just top up the drinkers and since doing this i have had no health problems with the birds at all
just ask me Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 I consider myself fortunate to have a back garden loft and have no problems in washing my drinkers in hot water & antibacterial washing-up liquid, daily in winter, twice daily at all other times. I also have a hygiene routine which utilises dry disinfectant sprinkled on my deep litter, on my walls & floor, box & bar perches, nest box floors, and nest bowls. i use deep litter only during the off season and im thinking of racing young birds on it this year anyway one question one of the main reasons i used it was so the Miro organisms build up in the deep litter and pigeons are picking through it so basically every time they put there beak in it its like a probiotic but wouldn't dry disinfected sprinkled on the floor not kill these as i say i only use it through the off season then when my cocks go on widowhood its all cleaned out also i dont know about power washing he lofts as timber can soak up a lot of water and this is an ideal breeding ground for worms and others i find to give the loft a good clean i scrape out then give it a good burn then clean again i fnd the loft comes up spotless also doing this after u worm or do for cocci stops them picking it back up again so basically my system is no treatments through off season and try to build up birds immune system then when racing comes in kept spotless treated during racing for the useall suspects i find for a bird to reach real top form lofts have to be kept clean
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