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I notice alot of forum members dont post or add their opinion. why not? all input is wellcome, come on lads and ladies put a few posts on.  bandit

 

on which topics are you noticing this   :)

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I notice alot of forum members dont post or add their opinion. why not? all input is wellcome, come on lads and ladies put a few posts on.  bandit

 

true,, any opinion is only the posters opinion,, but  postings about pigeons by many a  wide and varied voice,,, fanciers , could help any  old hand/  newcommer   alike,  among the many different opinions , the poss new fancier/old hand  can form his or her own opinion  :)

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Hey guys. there are a couple of reasons why I dont post many replies, maybe others don't because of the same reasons.

 

Im a newbie and haven't started racing yet, although i have the birds for it. I read alot of posts to help me in getting started, to get as much info as possible for the time when I will be racing. As a result, I read alot of them but dont post as i have no knowledge to share!!!!

 

another reason is that there are a few members whose attitudes to some posts are unhelpful at times, and sometimes just over-the-top or my-way-is-the-only-way. For anyone new who needs advice, any posts like this are the ultimate type of discouragement and prevent further posting.

 

Just my opinion

 

Lee

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Hey guys. there are a couple of reasons why I dont post many replies, maybe others don't because of the same reasons.

 

Im a newbie and haven't started racing yet, although i have the birds for it. I read alot of posts to help me in getting started, to get as much info as possible for the time when I will be racing. As a result, I read alot of them but dont post as i have no knowledge to share!!!!

 

another reason is that there are a few members whose attitudes to some posts are unhelpful at times, and sometimes just over-the-top or my-way-is-the-only-way. For anyone new who needs advice, any posts like this are the ultimate type of discouragement and prevent further posting.

 

Just my opinion

 

Lee

 

 

Well said Lee, i'm sure there are many who feel the same way, also i suspect there are many new comers who are afraid to ask a question in fear they will be shot down and left looking stupid.

If new people can't ask, what to them are sensible questions without fear then this would become a very sad forum indeed.

 

In this sport we never stop learning, the day you think you know it all your name will be on the bottom of the result sheet!

 

Phil

 

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just as an example further to my above post, a recent post about natural racing was started by someone recently and i found it very interesting, because this is how i intend to base my racing on, well, sort of. Another member posted his view about the method involving quite strict culling. Now that wouldnt be my choice of how to do it, but he was entitled to his opinion.

 

the problem started as i see it though because he was of the opinion that you would fail if you did it any other way.

 

so then everyone else jumped in and said he was wrong, some of them showing their outrage at his views. so then their attitude was the 'right' one, and you shouldn't cull.

 

whichever way you look at it, as a newbie I would not have jumped into that battlefield because alot of the posts were saying people aren't entitled to their opinions.

 

It was a very helpful post for new starters like me, if only to come away knowing that some other people do things the way i intend to, but that some dont! in my opinion, no-one's way is THE way to do it, otherwise everyone would do it the same way...

 

sorry if im rambling!

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also i think some people here that shouldet be here  ;)

 

agreed. but who decides on who should go??? and how do you decide who is not worth keeping???

 

at the moment one name springs to mind - who only ever disrupts threads and winds people up. others have already gone.

 

maybe the only way to deal with them is to not respond to any of their posts, too many people are too quick to take the bait, and that keeps the idiots coming back.

 

 

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just as an example further to my above post, a recent post about natural racing was started by someone recently and i found it very interesting, because this is how i intend to base my racing on, well, sort of. Another member posted his view about the method involving quite strict culling. Now that wouldnt be my choice of how to do it, but he was entitled to his opinion.

 

the problem started as i see it though because he was of the opinion that you would fail if you did it any other way.

 

so then everyone else jumped in and said he was wrong, some of them showing their outrage at his views. so then their attitude was the 'right' one, and you shouldn't cull.

 

whichever way you look at it, as a newbie I would not have jumped into that battlefield because alot of the posts were saying people aren't entitled to their opinions.

 

It was a very helpful post for new starters like me, if only to come away knowing that some other people do things the way i intend to, but that some dont! in my opinion, no-one's way is THE way to do it, otherwise everyone would do it the same way...

 

sorry if im rambling!

 

i could'nt agree more, when i first joined like you i noticed the same things and the same if you dont do it my way your an idiot posts. so i spent ages going thru old posts looking for info.

It would be nice if you could link up with someone from your area who flys natural or that use to fly natural, i dont know who we have on here that is from your neck of the woods.

but my opinion is go back and look thru the old threads theres a search button at the top left, and failing that you will soon learn whos posts to read and who to take no notice of .

Anyway all the best ....................amanda :)

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agreed. but who decides on who should go??? and how do you decide who is not worth keeping???

 

at the moment one name springs to mind - who only ever disrupts threads and winds people up. others have already gone.

 

maybe the only way to deal with them is to not respond to any of their posts, too many people are too quick to take the bait, and that keeps the idiots coming back.

 

 

know what u mean mate there is a few i think like that i was more talking about members from other sites useing other names

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i could'nt agree more, when i first joined like you i noticed the same things and the same if you dont do it my way your an idiot posts. so i spent ages going thru old posts looking for info.

It would be nice if you could link up with someone from your area who flys natural or that use to fly natural, i dont know who we have on here that is from your neck of the woods.

but my opinion is go back and look thru the old threads theres a search button at the top left, and failing that you will soon learn whos posts to read and who to take no notice of .

Anyway all the best ....................amanda :)

 

thanks for that :)

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Preston is good mate thanks. Still at Penwortham but hoping to move over towards Burnley way very soon. Tried moving to Todmorden but the purchase fell through - we couldnt take the pigeons - b*st*rds!!! It's a nightmare trying to find a house that accommodates the animals and is convenient for all concerned, and affordable!

 

Hows life mate?

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'So called' controversies, heated debates, the good willed banter, and also the sieswipes etc. are in reality what makes any 'Domain' popular. The more 'Fights' the more members, like chickens in a farm yard gather around. 99% run a good healthy and natural while to coming ti a end. Most often other topics, and posters, join and join in.

Sad to say, with out any 'Hassle' this and other site become dormant and very low, little used, just dropping in and  NOWT!

So yes it is a good thing. No not many, very few if any leave, indeed the very opposie is true. Now you can debate THAT as much as you like, but all the needless, and senseless crap sceanarios about banning should be banned. One doesn't have to like, dislike another poster, and ertainly no need to rise to the bait.

Out side of 'Bad languange and personally insults of ones family, not much to moan about.

Go and see a site with out controversy and and I'll show you one dead, or soon to cease one. That is a fact. Al those that bemoan, and spout 'Ban' etc. just form a little clique site of you own... and see them come, and go, especially after one or two have been removed. End of debates, and end of site. Alsorts of all walks of lifes, age sex, etrc. etc. is the spice of lifes and GOOD places to be... like a good pigeon base site should and will be.

Posted
'So called' controversies, heated debates, the good willed banter, and also the sieswipes etc. are in reality what makes any 'Domain' popular. The more 'Fights' the more members, like chickens in a farm yard gather around. 99% run a good healthy and natural while to coming ti a end. Most often other topics, and posters, join and join in.

Sad to say, with out any 'Hassle' this and other site become dormant and very low, little used, just dropping in and  NOWT!

So yes it is a good thing. No not many, very few if any leave, indeed the very opposie is true. Now you can debate THAT as much as you like, but all the needless, and senseless crap sceanarios about banning should be banned. One doesn't have to like, dislike another poster, and ertainly no need to rise to the bait.

Out side of 'Bad languange and personally insults of ones family, not much to moan about.

Go and see a site with out controversy and and I'll show you one dead, or soon to cease one. That is a fact. Al those that bemoan, and spout 'Ban' etc. just form a little clique site of you own... and see them come, and go, especially after one or two have been removed. End of debates, and end of site. Alsorts of all walks of lifes, age sex, etrc. etc. is the spice of lifes and GOOD places to be... like a good pigeon base site should and will be.

 

Roland I agree to a certain extent mate, but I was just commenting on what might stop new members posting or discourage them from joining in - didnt mean the banter was a bad thing

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Leroy that is 100% true, many don't / won't, or very seldom because they may A. Get a litle Flack, and B. belittled.

Yet another reasons or two or so, I believe, is that that of lack of confidence, Worried that may be adressing a 'Name', or feel that though it may be an important thing to them, it could just be a silly thing - in their thoughts - to others.

But you know, the singular, and biggest turn off in my 12 - years on these sites is 'Names' and the senseless shielding and standing up for these so called greats. The silly lame crutch of jealousy etc. and an feeling that they SHOULD also be able to buy their position and location etc. and as they can't an inferior feeling clouds logic and sense.

Was thinking this morning as I scraped out the birds, and the AGM I attended last night.

Of all the fanciers that have been unable to join a club, mostly it was through their own persona.

One talks 20 to the dozen and refuses point blank to raise a hand, in any way shape ot form. Won't attend fund - raisers etc. Leaves some and then tries to go back... they just can do without.

'Little lord Big head. A fellow has a great season.... Brag brag brag... regardless of subject it quickly turns to 'Me Brag Me brag again Me brag.... Club is nissed off at him... he'll to change a lot before any other club will let him in. The another two that were constantly sniping, degrading and belittling others, some bad too. No other club would have them.

Then there is the worst syndrome.... Close clique quacks and own interests AND THESE are the biggest cancer to our sport. They refuse entry every year and many frustarated have packed up....

But on here, well ignore, and or dig back. Anyone and everyone as far as I' concerned should have a freedom of talking sense, helping, or talking crap and soon be known for it... As long as they don't disuade Novices or hinder their enlightment and enjoyment...

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