phil411 Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 as most clubs now useing ets system how many are there still useing old clocks and winning just im new to yb raceing 2010 with stb ...
dwh Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 trust me invest in ets its 10-15 sec quicker
PIGEON_MAN Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 as most clubs now useing ets system how many are there still useing old clocks and winning just im new to yb raceing 2010 with stb ... If your going to win mate doesnt matter what clock you got,dont get into the idea that you must have ETS to win.
Guest spin cycle Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 as most clubs now useing ets system how many are there still useing old clocks and winning just im new to yb raceing 2010 with stb ... i'd stick to the stb this year. concentrate on the pigeons. there's alot to learn and you don't want to distracted by timing systems. stb clocks are simple reliable..job done JMO
ALF Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 trust me invest in ets its 10-15 sec quicker ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I have ETS and it's not because you can time in quicker as you have to get them home 1st anyway or it disnae matter if you use an old toulet or the latest ETS system ;)
harky Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 Its got its advantages in the sprint races
Roland Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 trust me invest in ets its 10-15 sec quicker First bird a bit more. Was shown a Fed Race result sheet just a couple of weeks back. A great fancier and his birds, which never shy away from him won the Fed. A Manual clocker. He had nine drop together. Said about 20 seconds to time the first in. - Not neccesily to enter the loft. Then exactly 12 seconds between the next four he timed in. He never bothered with the others. Yes he was first 5 club and Fed.... would have been first nine on ET. But no one has it down to a finer art than Barry. Yes a bird doing 1760 could be a quarter of a mile behind and still have won! Yes I remember well those Pro ET brigade spouting that they'd gladly give say 15 second etc. to a manual clocker.... Like we all knew when we said they would say 'Stuff em.... I had to buy mine, let tem do the same'! :B :B It's here to stay, and overall down the line will be a good thing. But has certainly brought out, as expected it would, the selfishness of some flyers.
hoodedclaw Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 there is a guy in r club who would win 5 to 6 races a year with a clock every year now down to 1 with ets
andrecrock Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 I will be buying me self an ets at blackpool,but not to try an improve my pigeons because no clocking system can do that.Will help in some short races to gain seconds.but my avice would be stb or even t3,now that they are thimbel less they are quick if you havent got 10 thumbs like me.
Roland Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 ET timers means, reagardless of silly notions, that as soon as the bird lands it has timed in. Time a Manual clocked birds lands,sets down struts around a mite on landing boards, walks around a mite, bobs in and out a couple of times... 20 seconds get into the loft blah blah ... ET Timers has had another 6 landed and beats you for first 7 places. As the preasure increases each week, and the manual clockers tries a mite harder.... the bird becomes tray shy and he has 14 before you. To even dream differently is foolhard at the highest level.
Guest strapper Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 i have open door my birds will fly past me to enter the loft...but..i have had a bird(same one) two years running, stop me topping the fed(each year) because of bad trapping...lost a few mins(4ish) on a short race but still won the club. even with a lower fed pos it doesnt make things better when you know the bird should have topped it. i use a t3....maybe if i hadnt been catching it so many times(use ets instead) then maybe things would have been different. but ill go on using the t3.
Guest frank dooman Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 I use the t3 if you are a new start i dont think it will make much of a difference it only helps for the shorter races but if you dont have any timmeing device and you are going to consentrate on sprints yes buy ets but if its distance raceing you want there are good second hand t3 that will do you for your needs remember when you have bought a t3 thats it with ets it still costs you at least £1.25 a ring for ever more and at the rate we loose even good birds well you count it say 30 birds lost a season lots of money over the years
Guest Owen Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 I have had a Bricon ETS for a few years now. Before that I used speed traps to good effect. The main benefits of ETS for me is that I follow a policy of not catching my pigeons in the loft. They are basketed by running into a crate placed at a flap outside the loft. And I do not like sputnics because it encourages the birds to fly around before they land. I want all the birds to be able to land together without the fear of them being grabed and they need to be confident that they will not be elbowed off some mini landing board. And I certainly will not have them landing on the roof of the loft. The result of all this is that the birds will land within a couple of feet of me and never circle as they once did. Since I introduced these ideas my birds are very calm and confident. But the best part of it all is the fact that they take a lot of beating on the trap. The only down side is that it is easy to miss a bird if I do not pay attention. So, if you do not want to spoil your birds by grabing them, and encourage them to trap really fast, get yourself an ETS system. You will not regret it. But be warned, you still have to have your birds up for the job. ETS does not make good pigeons. You have to do that yourself.
Guest spin cycle Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 my thought that is ,as a new starter, he should be more worried about getting a nice set-up where the ybs can sit out in an aviary and get used to the trap and their surroundings. get something flying round this year...worry about ets next JMO
Guest frank dooman Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 my thought that is ,as a new starter, he should be more worried about getting a nice set-up where the ybs can sit out in an aviary and get used to the trap and their surroundings. get something flying round this year...worry about ets next JMO agree 100% but why buy a t3/stb this year and then have to fork out within a couple of years for ets if hes going to sprint?
phil411 Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Posted December 19, 2009 thanxs all for your replys and helping make me mind up for me first year ...
Brumby Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 xmas race today, blaz 1st. and 2nd. on 770ypm with stb ets did not help the rest of us
Guest peter.j Posted December 19, 2009 Report Posted December 19, 2009 i used stb last season for the young birds the only way i was topping the sheet was to turn it upside down my advice if your sticking with the birds get ets now and avoid trap shy birds £1.25 a ring id be more bothered at losing the pigeon itself than a chip ring....pete
tjloft Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 I suppose it is what you set you cap at - if you are a sprint enthusiast living in a hotbed of sprint races you will need ETS to compete. If you are a channel man and enjoy being up at first light on a summers day waiting for a bird the STB/T3 will do!!!!!!!!
peterpau Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 Still gonna use my clock, seconds count for little at 600 mile plus. Still looking for my first bird to clock in the internationals though.
dwh Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 we know is all about getting yours birds to the loft al i'm saying is once they're here a manual clock no way beats ets and like frank dooman said y buy stb or t'3s when an ets system is no dearer
Guest IB Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 If its a new clock that you're buying, then there's not much difference in price between stb, t3 and ets. If I had to start again, mine would be ets, simply because its the most up to date clock.
greenlands Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 If its a new clock that you're buying, then there's not much difference in price between stb, t3 and ets. If I had to start again, mine would be ets, simply because its the most up to date clock. Totally agree,ets is the way forward,It's just a pity some have to pay for them and others don't,with a bit of luck we might get our for nothing if all goes well. Lindsay
mark croker Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 I won the club this year with using an STB, i had ets but was only having 2 young bird races so did not get the 30 rings for just 2 races, i was 1st and 2nd, from 70 miles, but if you can get ets i would as it is well worth it,
dwh Posted December 20, 2009 Report Posted December 20, 2009 Totally agree,ets is the way forward,It's just a pity some have to pay for them and others don't,with a bit of luck we might get our for nothing if all goes well. Lindsay uyeah it seems unfair i know club got a lottery grant i've heard some ave been turned down lately
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