fletch Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hi there my dad tells me in the eighties he had some great water pigeons there breed was workman (hope spelt right). I was wondering if anyone knows anything about them also if anyones still has them or if any ones has some avalible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun tim Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 iv got a workman baker for sale silver cheq hen bred by louella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Louella still have these pigeons. Regards Damian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Louella still have these pigeons. Regards Damian thanks anyone else got them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harky Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hi there my dad tells me in the eighties he had some great water pigeons there breed was workman (hope spelt right). I was wondering if anyone knows anything about them also if anyones still has them or if any ones has some avalible. found an old homing world stud book and a MR Jonh Ward of sheffield was advertising them for sale ill pm you his no :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Alf Bakers... Louella actually sold some of this strain to the Begiums. And they won Nationals with one etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Yes dad says they were great pigeons he had one cock called bergerac he came from there on the second day when they were losed midday so they had to have a night out the same bird also won saites on the day and second in the big midland 2 bird in the mid eighties good old days accordin to my dad.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpau Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Might be wrong but. Try Ian Workman if you can find him, he still has pigeons. Think he is either with one of the Derby feds or in one of the clubs in my fed, Warwickshire. Worth a try. Best o' luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fair Play Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Was Ch.Workman not a famous pigeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wee red hens Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 who was alf baker roland :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpau Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Was Ch.Workman not a famous pigeon yes and Massa bought him from Ian's dad I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun tim Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 yes thats right hes in the pedigree of the bird i have for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simeon Turner Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 John Ward of Sheffield knows alot about this strain. (i know he used to have them). He is on here as J V Ward - PM him, I am sure he will give you the information you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Alf Baker. It's the pigeon equivalent of "getting back to your roots." Though domestic pigeons have been bred in an almost unimaginable variety of colors and shapes, feral pigeons - the escapees, refugees, or cast offs from the domestic cornucopia - return quickly, within a generation or two, and almost universally to the mixed shades of grey, black, and blue that their wild ancestor the Rock Dove [columba livia] has worn for millennia. That is not to say they are drab, the close observer will see the fine play of color that cloaks a perfect "blue bar" pigeon, the color that racing great Alf Baker once referred to as a bag of gold dust, the pearlescent hue of the blue, the glowing purple and green of the iridescent neck feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted October 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 roland just read your post to my dad over the phone and he said bergerac(his bird) was a blue with all the traits that you have written done. nice to now a man who nows the birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksafc Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'm sure Alf Baker was a top class flyer in one of the london feds, flew in an inner city type environment, he had several top class winners, champions in fact, and louella bought birds from him, blues and blue w, they were very successful and the strain to have at one time. Sure the london lads could ad a lot more, well i think it was london. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest j v ward Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hi there my dad tells me in the eighties he had some great water pigeons there breed was workman (hope spelt right). I was wondering if anyone knows anything about them also if anyones still has them or if any ones has some avalible. i have sent you a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Alan Mark of Sanderstead. Probably one of the most famous pigeons to win the Pau Grand National was Alan Mark’s blue chequer hen, Champion ‘Pauline’, which was finally sold to the Louella Stud in Leicester. This Alf Baker / Jim Reilly hen was clocked on the second day at 13.47hrs. and won £2,000, which was a record amount of cash at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Seems that many couldn't get the best out of Alf's bloodlines and many was the fancier that said so. Alfs responce was 'You bought the pigeon... Not me'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asha Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Alf was a truly great small team fancier,the terror of the LondonNR Combine for many years,and although you rightly quote his famous "bag of golddust phrase,he had a great champion white cock called OMO( old timers will remember this washing powder which supposed to clean whiter than white)and his most famous bird,a Mealy cock called PLUM,hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy white Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Hi there my dad tells me in the eighties he had some great water pigeons there breed was workman (hope spelt right). I was wondering if anyone knows anything about them also if anyones still has them or if any ones has some avalible. "workman" was a blue pied cock bred by alf baker and raced by tommy bowes,,,,,alf baker was one of the trully greats only racing a small team of pigeons , compared to most ,,,, massarreli bought " workman" and alf bakers strain of pigeons,,, massareli have them today i purchased a son of "workman" many years ago also a blue pied, this bird escaped , but left two eggs in which i managed to rear one yb,, again a blue pd , this pigeon scored very well in a yb national [which there was only one bird on the day in the whole of scotland] the weather the next day was even worse,, pouring with rain, this pigeon appeared from under my loft gashed down the front,smeared in blood and soaked to the bone, i didnt see the pigeon come ,only when he appeared from under the loft,, the bird scored well in that race , but damaged so much , never raced again , he never bred anything outstanding but did breed some silvers , one of these silvers did very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompey Mick Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Van Hee won the 1982 St Vincent National with a grandson of Champion Workman 'Workman-Libourne' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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