Hours Of Darkness

[ribble]

A race closes at 10pm and reopens at 5am.

I clock in at 10.10pm is this a day bird and my time is 10pm or is it a day bird and my time is 10.10pm or is it classed as a second day bird and my time is 5am?

[REDCHEQHEN]

Depends whose rules you sre flying under

 

NEHU rules there are only 6 hours of darkness 10.30 - 4.30

[Tony C]

Believe its classed as a 2nd day bird

[ribble]

Ok red, under your rules if i timed at 10.40pm what would happen?

[REDCHEQHEN]

Ok red, under your rules if i timed at 10.40pm what would happen?

 

NEHU rules - time in before midnight counts as 10.30pm

 

after midnight and before 4.30am - counts as 4.30am

[aye ready]

the race has closed at 10.30 u would be credited with a 4.30 time in. happened to me out of a channel race few years back i timed at 10.42 but was given the time of 4.30 and a pigeon timed after 4.30 but flying 12 miles further than me beat me in the race was i raging or what

[jimmy white]

 

NEHU rules - time in before midnight counts as 10.30pm

 

after midnight and before 4.30am - counts as 4.30am

 

same rules for shu,,,,i,e ,, whatever   closing time is  and whatever opening time is

b4 12 shutting time after 12 opening time

[aye ready]

 

same rules for shu

 

when did these rules come into being jimmy

[REDCHEQHEN]

the race has closed at 10.30 u would be credited with a 4.30 time in. happened to me out of a channel race few years back i timed at 10.42 but was given the time of 4.30 and a pigeon timed after 4.30 but flying 12 miles further than me beat me in the race was i raging or what

 

because of the hours of darkness - it actually doesn't make any difference - 10.30 - 4.30 doesn't exist - so 10.30 and 4.30 would have the same time

[ribble]

Any one know what would happen under RPRA rules.

[aye ready]

see ur point RCH

[jimmy white]

 

because of the hours of darkness - it actually doesn't make any difference - 10.30 - 4.30 doesn't exist - so 10.30 and 4.30 would have the same time

 

 

[jimmy white]

 

when did these rules come into being jimmy

 

read shu rule book

[Guest]

could someone tell me why we have darkness hours? if a bird is good enough to fly in the dark can he not be accredited with the time? seems stupid that a man that times at 10.30 50 miles short will beat you if you time at 10.31! NO?

[REDCHEQHEN]

could someone tell me why we have darkness hours? if a bird is good enough to fly in the dark can he not be accredited with the time? seems stupid that a man that times at 10.30 50 miles short will beat you if you time at 10.31! NO?

 

he won't beat you

but is it fair that someone flying 50 miles further will beat you if he times in at 5.00am when you clocked in the night before at 10.30

 

horses for courses as they say

[hotrod]

as someone has said if you time at 10pm ,5pm is exactly the same time ,because the race is closed in between as its deemed to dark for birds to fly, i know its seems unfair if you time at 10:10pm(you are credited as 10pm ) and some one times  at 5am and he is only a yard futher than you he WILL BEAT YOU ,although you will be credited as a day bird (as its before midnight) , his would be second day bird.

[REDROCKET]

i've said this before on another thread its a stupid rule and should be taken away we only get a handful of these big races if you cant get up through the night and check your loft dont enter these big races leave them for the big boys

[REDROCKET]

as someone has said if you time at 10pm ,5pm is exactly the same time ,because the race is closed in between as its deemed to dark for birds to fly, i know its seems unfair if you time at 10:10pm(you are credited as 10pm ) and some one times  at 5am and he is only a yard futher than you he WILL BEAT YOU ,although you will be credited as a day bird (as its before midnight) , his would be second day bird.

 

this is one of the reasons its a crap rule how can a second day bird beat a first day bird crazy

[PIGEON_MAN]

as someone has said if you time at 10pm ,5pm is exactly the same time ,because the race is closed in between as its deemed to dark for birds to fly, i know its seems unfair if you time at 10:10pm(you are credited as 10pm ) and some one times  at 5am and he is only a yard futher than you he WILL BEAT YOU ,although you will be credited as a day bird (as its before midnight) , his would be second day bird.

 

If you clocked at 10.10 depending on which rules you come under and if the h.o.d.began at 10.00.your timing would be classed as 05.10,you cant take 10 minutes off the birds flying time.

[PATTY BHOY]

All Federation races shall be flown on the system of velocity Proper. All inland races to close on the day of liberation at 22.00 Hours OB and 20.30 hours YB. Overseas races up to and including Nantes close at the end of TWO (2) days at 22.00 hours OB and 20.30 hours YB. Beyond Nantes close at the end of THREE (3) days at 22.00 hours. The hours of darkness shall be 22.00 hours to 05.00 hours for old birds races and 20.30 hours to 06.00 hours young bird races.

 

[hotrod]

 

If you clocked at 10.10 depending on which rules you come under and if the h.o.d.began at 10.00.your timing would be classed as 05.10,you cant take 10 minutes off the birds flying time.

you better go look at rules mate the race is closed so there is no time between 10pm and 5am  or 10:45 and 04:45 as it is in our longer races.

 

 

[hotrod]

i've said this before on another thread its a stupid rule and should be taken away we only get a handful of these big races if you cant get up through the night and check your loft dont enter these big races leave them for the big boys

what if your bird only just makes it home at say 10:45pm and your winning , the boys in aberdeen have no chance of beating you if there is no hod ,it would be very unfair to all the longest fliers in all long distance clubs.how many birds are actually timed in after 10:45 pm and before 04:45 i'll tell you very, very few .

 

 

[greenhow.sland]

in up north combine am sure it goes to closest hour say bird clocks in at 11oclock it would go to 10oclock and if birds clocked in say 2 oclock it  will be timed in 4.30 correct me if ime wrong

[PIGEON_MAN]

All Federation races shall be flown on the system of velocity Proper. All inland races to close on the day of liberation at 22.00 Hours OB and 20.30 hours YB. Overseas races up to and including Nantes close at the end of TWO (2) days at 22.00 hours OB and 20.30 hours YB. Beyond Nantes close at the end of THREE (3) days at 22.00 hours. The hours of darkness shall be 22.00 hours to 05.00 hours for old birds races and 20.30 hours to 06.00 hours young bird races.

 

Which Fed or Union does this apply to.

[PIGEON_MAN]

you better go look at rules mate the race is closed so there is no time between 10pm and 5am  or 10:45 and 04:45 as it is in our longer races.

 

 

If you fly under RPRA rules perhaps you will tell me which rule it is,if you read my posting again you will see I said about who you fly with in the first line as every union and fed could be differant.