west section

[naedoos]

 

I do agree with a lot of your points mate.. but hypothetically speaking in each of those channel races your birds could have been out in front.. and then hit a wire or snacthed with a BOP.. and your now putting the blame down on to either the birds or your mangement..

 

Thats a big factor now in the West.. the BOP situation is so bad.. that you can never really tell what's happening to the doos..

 

And i fear in a lot of cases.. fanciers are changing birds and systems too often, when in a lot of cases the blame might not have fell on the birds or managment.. just an opinion..

 

We do have them in the East as well and it's obviously just going to get worse with everyone flying the East route these days, so don't think it's a valid excuse these days.

 

Hats off to the North guys, their doos are so gutsy for doing what they do, the amount of times I think how hard ours are working to get home, and then think about the guys fae the North, disnae bear thinkin aboot how hard their doos have got it

[dwh]

cullen scoring in the nationals wi john duthies doos and vice versa so stop all the nonsense there are good and bud in every sect o the nat[

[VMS]

Good pigeon fanciers will always be good fanciers no matter were they fly.But i think that good pigeons are also a vital component of any fanciers success.As to the east, west debate you only have to take the young bird national races for example and there are pigeons right up the east cost as far as Dundee before they are in the west.Now there are equally as good pigeon fanciers in both sides of the country,so on that basis one can only come to one conclusion.

[naedoos]

Good pigeon fanciers will always be good fanciers no matter were they fly.But i think that good pigeons are also a vital component of any fanciers success.As to the east, west debate you only have to take the young bird national races for example and there are pigeons right up the east cost as far as Dundee before they are in the west.Now there are equally as good pigeon fanciers in both sides of the country,so on that basis one can only come to one conclusion.

 

aye, we're trainin oors in a straight line

[Guest stevie-b]

the reason these things aare happening now is there is alot more fanciers from the east sending to nationals and sending big teams no just the odd 1or 2

[VMS]

 

aye, we're trainin oors in a straight line

 

Think the smiley face you put up tells the whole story mate.  ;D ;D ;D

[naedoos]

 

Think the smiley face you put up tells the whole story mate.  ;D ;D ;D

 

was a wink cos a know what you's are daein wrong

[Guest stevie-b]

remember they sent to the east for the wisemen  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[duncandoo]

the absolute truth of the matter is that someone in edinburgh is flying the same miles as me in motherwell but my birds will come up the east coast with the rest of the birds and then cut across with the wind in there faces another fifty miles same distance i dont think so west coast doos are tough birds thay have to be watching the other birds dropping into there lofts and they have another hour and a half to go

[dwh]

Good pigeon fanciers will always be good fanciers no matter were they fly.But i think that good pigeons are also a vital component of any fanciers success.As to the east, west debate you only have to take the young bird national races for example and there are pigeons right up the east cost as far as Dundee before they are in the west.Now there are equally as good pigeon fanciers in both sides of the country,so on that basis one can only come to one conclusion.

 

like i said earlier on young bird racing is totally different we fly in a club with 29 lofts in a 1/2 mile radius and the back lofts beat the other  lofts by minutes not seconds and we taalking yards ybs follow the pack thats y we ave bigger losses they get to far past and to the east OR west and remember once past overfly is distance x3 + whatevr xtra they fly but as old birds if they been well educated then its a differernt ball game thats when the fanciers knowledge comes into play  

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

the absolute truth of the matter is that someone in edinburgh is flying the same miles as me in motherwell but my birds will come up the east coast with the rest of the birds and then cut across with the wind in there faces another fifty miles same distance i dont think so west coast doos are tough birds thay have to be watching the other birds dropping into there lofts and they have another hour and a half to go

 

Exactly mate..!!!

[Guest bigda]

the fairest  national  race,  would be from the  east coast  of Ireland  from a boat at a distance,    as the weather would be  mostly west wind   no mountain disadvantages   and how many in the national would enter that,  to see  where the best  birds  came from,  there are 1.000 members in the national  i don't think there would be many takers from the east

until  some one  takes up that challenge,  you cant say the birds in the east are better  than the west  and as you all say time and distance  nothing to fear  

[slinky slitheroe]

 

Exactly mate..!!![/quote I think the best pigeon men in scotland are in the west section, i have no doubt about that.

 

 

[naedoos]

the absolute truth of the matter is that someone in edinburgh is flying the same miles as me in motherwell but my birds will come up the east coast with the rest of the birds and then cut across with the wind in there faces another fifty miles same distance i dont think so west coast doos are tough birds thay have to be watching the other birds dropping into there lofts and they have another hour and a half to go

 

This is a true statement apart from one wee thing, you guys are under the impression that all the birds come up the East, but the majority of our National birds come in from our West :-/

 

Ah well, back tae the drawin board

[Guest stevie-b]

if they east coast birds from dundee angus and the north crossed at dunbar then the nationals would be won here alot but they dont and never have they come inland and cross the forth at the bridges putting an extra half hour or more depending on the wind

[ally mac]

the fairest  national  race,  would be from the  east coast  of Ireland  from a boat at a distance,    as the weather would be  mostly west wind   no mountain disadvantages   and how many in the national would enter that,  to see  where the best  birds  came from,  there are 1.000 members in the national  i don't think there would be many takers from the east

until  some one  takes up that challenge,  you cant say the birds in the east are better  than the west  and as you all say time and distance  nothing to fear  

 

My old mans pal was the skipper of a coaster during the foot and mouth outbreak, He took a boat load of doos from Ireland to be liberated at sea. Cant remember where it was though, maybe some of the Irish lads will remember.

 

Al.

[rembrant2coo]

99% OF THE NAT WINNERS IN THE EAST WOULD NEVER HAVE WON A NATIONAL IF THEY WERE IN THE WEST.

 

 

now ( a) i thought u of all people would  know better than that

[naedoos]

the fairest  national  race,  would be from the  east coast  of Ireland  from a boat at a distance,    as the weather would be  mostly west wind   no mountain disadvantages   and how many in the national would enter that,  to see  where the best  birds  came from,  there are 1.000 members in the national  i don't think there would be many takers from the east

until  some one  takes up that challenge,  you cant say the birds in the east are better  than the west  and as you all say time and distance  nothing to fear  

 

;D ;D ;D

 

We need the birds to get a wee bit o a test, no sprint hame like yours ;D

[dwh]

 

Exactly mate..!!!

 

i'm sorry mate i see your point but if its a strong prevailing east then surely west side has advantage? stobbs and son fly 25+ more than us and they topping our amal more times than you can think of all i can say is he got super birds and super management you gotta suck it up and tae the medicine :'(

[duncandoo]

i have see liberations before and the bottom ones get knocked to the ground a liberation at sea might mean a disaster for the bottom ones

[hotrod]

 

This is a true statement apart from one wee thing, you guys are under the impression that all the birds come up the East, but the majority of our National birds come in from our West :-/

 

Ah well, back tae the drawin board

 

i think the wind determins what line the birds take coming home from france if the wind is west the birds will hug the east coast or near to it and if its east they will come up the west coast till they hit bandit territory (cumbria ) who knows what way they go then . certainly not north . well most of the time ,i remember years ago a top flier in the south timed in from france with birds along with his heading north west and no one timed these birds where did they go ?ps this happened regularly

[slinky slitheroe]

i have see liberations before and the bottom ones get knocked to the ground a liberation at sea might mean a disaster for the bottom ones

Ive seen liberations from boats it looked ok none in the water thats for sure.

 

 

[ally mac]

i have see liberations before and the bottom ones get knocked to the ground a liberation at sea might mean a disaster for the bottom ones

 

I was talking to Willie McCray, the skipper, he said that a few never left the ship till they got closer to land but never mentioned any in the water. The freeboard (height from the side of the ship to the sea) on these boats would be about 12ft or so.

 

Al.

[Guest bigda]

 

;D ;D ;D

 

We need the birds to get a wee bit o a test, no sprint hame like yours ;D

 

100 mile east cost of Ireland  would give you  580 mile   need any more distance  go out further  ;D ;D ;D ;D i can now start to smell  some yellow  stuff  ;D  blowing from the east  put the birds on a boat at stranraer or girvin  ;D ;D

[dwh]

 

I was talking to Willie McCray, the skipper, he said that a few never left the ship till they got closer to land but never mentioned any in the water. The freeboard (height from the side of the ship to the sea) on these boats would be about 12ft or so.

 

Al.

 

ally were they est or wst pigons ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D