Nastatin

[Roland]

Have a problem getting some. A good fancier on here let me have some of his last time. Any going spare I can buy?

[jimmy_bulger]

wots it for

[REDCHEQHEN]

Yeast infections

[Guest rodders]

send mrs to doctor and tell him she has thrush  

[supersonic steptoe]

think its called nystatin used in old peoples homes alot i think

[john niko]

yu can go the chemist and buy sum stuf caled nystan it dus the same thing as above but yu mix it on the corn

[HOMER49]

Have a problem getting some. A good fancier on here let me have some of his last time. Any going spare I can buy?

 

Hi Roland

Have MYCOSTATIN  60ml   DOE  06/2009

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[little sam]

IT CAN ALSO PREVENT YOUNGBIRD SICKNESS, FIRST TIME YOUR YOUNG BIRDS ARE MIXED WITH OTHER/ DRINKING SAME WATER PUT A COUPLE OF DROPS DOWN AND KILLS ANYTHING IN THERE SYSTEM

[walkergeoffrey@ymail.com]

if u know any one going to spain get from chemist there 10 a penny but if u cant wait try cider vinegar

[Guest beautyhomer]

think its called nystatin used in old peoples homes alot i think

 

nystatin is prescription only

[Chairman]

Nystatin an antibiotic that fights against yeast infections. It was cultured by the Americans in New York thats were the NY abbreviation comes from now the STATIN is derived from Statin Island where the research laboratory was based so thats how it got its name NYSTATIN. It is readily available if you know where to look but beware use it properly or it will come back and bite you, you know what I am getting at or you will inherit more problems than you started with, yes we all know jimmy whatsisname uses it down the road and wins all the prizes ,that's what is said the truth is he most probably does not and thats why he wins as he does? ;D

CIDER VINEGAR is a good product, I only used it once on the wife, I didnt get a wink of sleep she lay there screaming her head off all night, tryed ROCK SALT that didnt fair too well neither..... well you dont know unless you try and they tell me God likes a tryer. 8)

[Chairman]

NYSTATIN- Antimicrobial that is used to treat thrush and fungal infections.

Nystatin must come into contact with these organisms to be effective and as it is not absorbed from the digestive tract, can only treat infections here.

An alternative to use would be KETOCONAZOLE, An antimicrobial used to treat thrush and fungal infections.One of the few fungal drugs that is absorbed from the bowel and can therefore be used to treat fungal airsac infections.

[Roland]

 

nystatin is prescription only

 

In France / Spain etc. etc. it is sold over the counter.

[Guest]

yes rolly but any good vet will give you it but as usual will have to pay vet fee

[Guest IB]

I remember Nystatin mention in the 'Using Garlic' Thread. Here's the extract:-

 

Effective Antifungal

Fungi demonstrated to be susceptible to garlic in lab tests include the genera Microsporum, Epidermophyton, Trichophyton, Rhodotorula, Torulopsis, Trichosporon, Cryptococcus neoformans, and Candida, including Candida albicans. It is reported that garlic is more effective against pathogenic yeasts than nystatin, especially Candida albicans (1) (5) (9) (11).

[Roland]

Garlic is a 'Preventive' rather than a cure. Opposite like to Penisulian.

I use barly as a blood purifier. Garlic is also good for the blood of course. Garlic is good for taking fat off of pigeons. Barly can hold the wieght ... or make them overwieght.

And the beat goes on. So yes I'm a great believer in Garlic, but I personally wouldn't use garlic to clear out yeast for example.

[Guest IB]

Garlic is a 'Preventive' rather than a cure

 

Not any more its not. It was Tony C who first found this on a poultry website:

 

Candidiasis  - Methods of Treatment

 

.... In vivo studies have shown that garlic at 2% and 4% in feed protected chicks from experimental Candida albicans infection.

 

The disease induced by oral inoculation of chicks with C. albicans was successfully cured by providing a ration containing 5% garlic (Prasad and Sharma, 1980).

 

 

 

 

[Guest IB]

This is the post from the 'Using Garlic' thread.

 

(1) Tony C provided a link some time ago which I thought had been posted, but isn�t on this thread. It contained important information on the effective strengths for garlic use both as a preventative and a cure. The paper refers to experiments carried out on the fungus Candida Albicans which is relevant in pigeons.

 

http://www.organic-vet.reading.ac.uk/Poultryweb/Index.htm

 

Candida

 

In vivo studies have shown that garlic at 2% and 4% in feed protected chicks from experimental Candida albicans infection. The disease induced by oral inoculation of chicks with C. albicans was successfully cured by providing a ration containing 5% garlic (Prasad and Sharma, 1980).

 

Note:

2% is 2g garlic per 100ml of drinking water, or 20g per litre.

4% is 4g garlic per 100ml of drinking water, or 40g per litre.

5% is 5g garlic per 100ml of drinking water, or 50g per litre.

 

For information, Asda sells a pack containing 3 organic garlic bulbs, each weighing around 30g, for around 70 pence..

 

(2) Some information on allicin, one of the garlic compounds.

 

http://www.gourmetgarlicgardens.com/health.htm

 

Allicin kills by invading staph, strep or other bacterial cells and causing them to swell up and burst, killing them, according to Dr. David Mirelman of The Weitzman Institute in Rehovek, Israel,- no wonder they can't become immune to it. A way of explaining how it works is that allicin passes right through the bi-lipid cellular walls and it's mere presence inside the cell changes the electrical polarity of the cell and that forces it to draw in surrounding fluid and swell up, trying to equalize the charge but they burst before stasis is achieved and that kills them. So I repeat...Staph and other bacteria cannot become immune to allicin like they have standard antibiotics�..

 

Both of these techniques involve using garlic that has been diluted in water. Good things can happen when you dilute crushed raw garlic in water after it has waited enough time after crushing for an ample amount of allicin to have been formed - at least 15 minutes but an hour or two is better because more allicin will have formed, and it's the allicin we want. Placing crushed raw garlic into water sort of stabilizes allicin and preserves it and changes its half-life from 16 hours in air to 28 days in water, while preserving the allicin and its antibiotic properties.

 

Energy comes  from the high amount of ATPase found in garlic. ATPase is the enzyme that triggers the conversion of ATP into ADP and the little bit of matter left over is converted into energy at the cellular level like a miniature soft warm nuclear reactor. For those who want details, ATP is Adenosine Tri Phosphate and its conversion into Adenosine Di Phosphate is a normal process but garlic supplies more of the enzyme that triggers the process resulting in much greater immediately available energy.

 

Chemically, the interesting thing about garlic water is that it has both water-soluble and fat-soluble compounds and they work their way through the body in different way with the water-soluble going via the blood system whereas the fat-soluble enter through and travel via the lymphatic system.

 

(3) Further evidence that garlic in water is able to get into the bloodstream is provided in the Garlic oil & pathogens PDF document attached. It is an experiment in human blood where antibacterial activity was shown to peak at 40-60 minutes after intake, and Table 5, page 2 shows the limited inhibition zones on 4 pathogens treated with human blood before the patients took garlic, and the much greater zones after the patients took garlic water.

 

(4) This effect in the bloodstream may be explained in Allicin PDF document attached where on page 6, 'Laboratory studies' , allicin has been shown to enhance the phagocytes which engulf and eat foreign substances, and the natural killer cells which do the same and also kill disease-infected cells, both part of the body�s natural defence systems.

 

Note:

It is wrong to think garlic has only one active agent, allicin. It has [several thousand?] not all of them yet identified and those that have each with different actions.

 

[REDCHEQHEN]

Pigeons would rather not have garlic in their water - they don't like it - and therefore drink a lot less which will affect their performance - probably as much as having a yeast infection

 

I have noticed in the past that they drink as much as 50% less than normal - wherever possible I always put 'whatever' on their food - be it garlic or medication

[Jeremy]

I have brought garlic in 1kg packs from Countrywide stores for horses its just over £5 for the pack. It is 100 % garlic which is chopped into small peices and is just perfect for the birds to eat. Just throw a handfull down when the birds are hungry and they eat like no tomorrow. The next day they are throwing the down out and its looks like its doing them good.

[wilkins]

you can pop a samll bit of garlic down each bird , well you can if you have a small team. or add it into any oil you use

i dont like in the drinker either red chequer hen

[Guest]

Pigeons would rather not have garlic in their water - they don't like it - and therefore drink a lot less which will affect their performance - probably as much as having a yeast infection

 

I have noticed in the past that they drink as much as 50% less than normal - wherever possible I always put 'whatever' on their food - be it garlic or medication

 

off topic...(happy)(evil)

[heather down]

when I was in Spain in June I got boxes of Flagyl over the counter from chemists. When my late husband and I were there on our last holiday he had me going in every chemist buying 2 boxes on the way into Salou what a way to spend a pleasant walk along the sea front.

[Guest IB]

Pigeons would rather not have garlic in their water - they don't like it - and therefore drink a lot less which will affect their performance - probably as much as having a yeast infection

 

I have noticed in the past that they drink as much as 50% less than normal - wherever possible I always put 'whatever' on their food - be it garlic or medication

 

Know what you are saying. Mine have been drinking garlic water for years and I have been 'judging' strength on taste. Mine also get it after the race, not before.

 

During off-season is a good time to do some experiments. January & February this year I was watching water intake with my birds, as I wanted to see effect of certain additives:

 

Plain water : .... cocks 400ml hens 300ml

elderberry (5ml) cocks 200ml hens 200ml

elderberry (2ml) cocks 400ml hens 300ml

garlic : ..............cocks 400ml hens 400ml

harkaverm (6ml) cocks 400ml hens 400ml

miltivit (6ml) .......cocks 300ml hens 400ml

garlic 0.8% .........cocks 200ml hens 200ml

garlic 1.8% ..........cocks 300ml hens 200ml  

[REDCHEQHEN]

when I was in Spain in June I got boxes of Flagyl over the counter from chemists. When my late husband and I were there on our last holiday he had me going in every chemist buying 2 boxes on the way into Salou what a way to spend a pleasant walk along the sea front.

 

Been there and got the T-shirt (evil)(evil)(evil)

 

well - not Salou - (evil)

just the in and out of Chemists shops in Spanish resorts