Splay Leg

[hellsbellz]

I've got a squeaker with a splay leg, is there any way of putting it right?

 

I've tried strapping the legs with tape but it keeps managing to break free!

 

Any advice greatly received.

 

Thanks

 

Helen

[pjc]

put elastic band to keep legs in right position but most of all make sure nest material is not allowing them to slip around.

[Guest IB]

If this bird is still in the nest, pop a plastic egg in to give it a bit support and stop the parents pressing down on top of it. Also look to your nest material and make sure there's enough there to give the bird's feet something to grip on to.

 

[Guest stb]

personally think it waste of time, when got hiip displatia.

 

you can put a plastic clip ring on each leg and tie together at the correct distance with a small tie wrap.

its never very succesfull

[peterpau]

Think once this happens tiz too late. I don't believe in culling normally but, this is one time I would have to. Sorry to put a downer on it, but many on here seem to cull at will and I don't.

Change the grit every five days pick stones and shellfish grit will prevent this but not cure it.

[Guest bakes]

i had a few chicks with splayed legs when i use to keep canaries happens when the hen is sitting to tight to the chick or not enough nest material best thing to do is connect a lacky band round both legs putting another item in the nest with the chick large marble or dummy eggs lifts the hen so she doesnt sit to tight but you got to be careful as if the chick is to old the calcium in the birds leg would of allready formed and if that has happened it will have splayed legs for life

 

all the best

bakes.

[REDCHEQHEN]

prop it up with a decent sized potato either side of it

 

it works wonders

[slinky slitheroe]

I've got a squeaker with a splay leg, is there any way of putting it right?

 

I've tried strapping the legs with tape but it keeps managing to break free!

 

Any advice greatly received.

 

Thanks

 

Helen

Unfortunatly it is deformed its up to yourself if you want to keep it.

 

 

[holmsidelofts]

if its older than 10 days its irreversible. always make sure you have adequate nest material, normally you only get it with single reared youngsters. never had it before myself.

 

 

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

what about one of those leg splints and a harness? Im sure you could do something with one of those.  

[Guest Freebird]

All my chicks are single reared and I have never came accross this. Is there something else that causes this, i.e. nourishement as in rickets? Or is it just down to positioning of legs etc.

[sammy]

All my chicks are single reared and I have never came accross this. Is there something else that causes this, i.e. nourishement as in rickets? Or is it just down to positioning of legs etc.

 

its down to the lack of nesting material  

[Guest IB]

All my chicks are single reared and I have never came accross this. Is there something else that causes this, i.e. nourishement as in rickets? Or is it just down to positioning of legs etc.

 

I had a single case of it in my first breeding year. All my birds used plastic nest bowls & nestfelts, except one pair of yearlings, hen refused to lay in it. Even when I put eggs in bowl, she rolled them out one at a time under her chin onto box floor. The nest was also all over the place, she'd have it in the right corner, cock would spell her 9am and by 5pm it was over in left corner when the hen spelled him, and she'd move it back, with repeat the next day....

 

Should have known better, but let them hatch one as a foster-pair. Youngster had been OK when rung 5/7 days, but when it started to feather up I noticed unrung leg was splayed away from the body. Tried several things including pinning a nest felt to box floor under the nest, but even I could see the parents sat on the youngster, instead of just covering it.

 

Solved it by swapping youngsters; put the splayed-leg one under another pair who covered rather than sat on it, parents legs held youngster and stopped it sliding sideways & leg came 'good'; put healthy youngster under the inexperienced pair, and it soon stopped them 'sitting' on it - if they got down  too close, it reared up and knocked them up. Comical to see. The pair accepted the bowl for their second round, but I never trusted them with rearing another nest.

 

So reckon it was down to inexperienced parents and poor nest material - youngster had nothing to grip.  So single reared youngsters always have a plastic egg with them for ten or so days, they always sit on the bare nest felt (I take twigs etc away before egg hatches). Never had another case.

[Novice]

My opinion is it's down to a poor quality nest either due to lack of nesting material or the birds just not building.

 

I think the leg issue is unlikely to improve.

[Chris Little]

This occurs usually with single reared youngsters in a clay nest bowl with little or no nest material.

 

The youngster's feet slip on the clay surface which leads to slayed legs, no cure, just the bucket

[Guest Freebird]

O.K. guys, so it is down to nesting material. My birds have clay bowls with plenty straw which I put in place but also put on loft floor as they just love to be busy at making big fat ( well over the top ) nests. As I say, never come accross this but better prepared if it should happen. Thanks.

[Roland]

Do wish people would stop being stupid in overstating their views as if it's clever... The Bucket, Bin it etc. Just how many times does it have to be stated that many others, beside fanciers, youngster and newcomers read such things. And many are those that are only too pleased to copy and state how callous and uncouth 'Pigeon fanciers' are, and then have the cheek to spout about Falconers etc. etc.

My mate was holidaying in Greece. Met a UK flyer there. Often thought he'd like to start up. Call back and said  'What a callous and evil lot you pigeon fanciers are... then used all the uncouth names used in culling. Not least because the bird wasn't good enough to...

Does one really think it impresses?  :-/ It doesn't impress any one and that's a fact. we have heard it all before and members of the public newbies and etc. deplore it.... Indeed the only ones that like it are those up to no good. Animal rights enthusiastic brigade and even the B.O.P. fraternity that rub their’ hands in glee to splatter the mud back at us. Now that is a fact! And as such Yes it is time we 'Binned it' and through it into a waste bucket.

[Guest stb]

Do wish people would stop being stupid in overstating their views as if it's clever... The Bucket, Bin it etc. Just how many times does it have to be stated that many others, beside fanciers, youngster and newcomers read such things. And many are those that are only too pleased to copy and state how callous and uncouth 'Pigeon fanciers' are, and then have the cheek to spout about Falconers etc. etc.

My mate was holidaying in Greece. Met a UK flyer there. Often thought he'd like to start up. Call back and said  'What a callous and evil lot you pigeon fanciers are... then used all the uncouth names used in culling. Not least because the bird wasn't good enough to...

Does one really think it impresses?  :-/ It doesn't impress any one and that's a fact. we have heard it all before and members of the public newbies and etc. deplore it.... Indeed the only ones that like it are those up to no good. Animal rights enthusiastic brigade and even the B.O.P. fraternity that rub their’ hands in glee to splatter the mud back at us. Now that is a fact! And as such Yes it is time we 'Binned it' and through it into a waste bucket.

roland the point is the bird will probably never be able to walk and they normally end up in a right mess. In nature it would not survive anyway. when a horse breaks its leg the vets shot it there and then, the same with other damaged animals. Thats life. what would you advise to do with the bird as if it were your own.  personally i think its an injustise to keep somthing thats deformed.

 

 

[Roland]

stb, yes in nature etc. etc. and yes yes, Yet we should quite possibly cull in a humane and dignified way. Not 'Just chuck it a bucket' / 'Bin it'.

What would I have done / do? Simply!  Put it to rest. Not discard it as a worthless irritating bit of useless fodder. Not when we have organisations trying to BAN pigeon racing as cruel. Not when we are trying to say that B.O.P killing etc. our birds and when trying to answer their call that setting up B.O.P. over fanciers lofts to eat our pigeons is cruel and NOT nature.  -AS YOU try to imply 'What NATURE would do! Nature has nothing to do with it. We are suppose to be humane, caring pigeon lovers, not barbaric callous show offs that delight in 'Chucking' our birds we supposedly care for in a bucket, or bin. That is not what caring and thoughtful people do.

To answer it would be better to say 'It will never walk, nor be able to feed it's self, atleast not properly, aso unfortunately be best to put it out of it's misery'. surely. Not 'Bucket it' strueth we are in the 21st centaury for pigeons sake.

[Guest Gimp]

roland the point is the bird will probably never be able to walk and they normally end up in a right mess. In nature it would not survive anyway. when a horse breaks its leg the vets shot it there and then, the same with other damaged animals. Thats life. what would you advise to do with the bird as if it were your own.  personally i think its an injustise to keep somthing thats deformed.

 

 

do you think its an injustice to keep deformed humans

[Guest stb]

 

do you think its an injustice to keep deformed humans

that i would not know .

 

Its birds we are discussing on a pigeon forum.  it not N H S 24hr advice line.

 

I think that is a tottaly stupid and irelevant question to ask .

 

 

[Guest stb]

stb, yes in nature etc. etc. and yes yes, Yet we should quite possibly cull in a humane and dignified way. Not 'Just chuck it a bucket' / 'Bin it'.

What would I have done / do? Simply!  Put it to rest. Not discard it as a worthless irritating bit of useless fodder. Not when we have organisations trying to BAN pigeon racing as cruel. Not when we are trying to say that B.O.P killing etc. our birds and when trying to answer their call that setting up B.O.P. over fanciers lofts to eat our pigeons is cruel and NOT nature.  -AS YOU try to imply 'What NATURE would do! Nature has nothing to do with it. We are suppose to be humane, caring pigeon lovers, not barbaric callous show offs that delight in 'Chucking' our birds we supposedly care for in a bucket, or bin. That is not what caring and thoughtful people do.

To answer it would be better to say 'It will never walk, nor be able to feed it's self, atleast not properly, aso unfortunately be best to put it out of it's misery'. surely. Not 'Bucket it' strueth we are in the 21st centaury for pigeons sake.

That was great Roland i new i could get another rant out of you before the end of the night :P ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

had this happen before all i done was put clip ring on opposit leg and tied a bit string to that and metal ring for a few days works a wonder