Guest Davy Fleming Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 Now that the season is over for some and almost for the rest how would you get your birds through the moult as quick as possible i,e, what do you feed and put in the water
kev43 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 well i give them a gd moultin mix with linseed oil on twice a week as much as they want a a bath twice a week
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 Have noticed a lot of fanciers on here mention Buttermilk to put in the water,will this mix with other things like garlic,cider vinegar etc and how much would you put in.
Guest mick bowler Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 Have noticed a lot of fanciers on here mention Buttermilk to put in the water,will this mix with other things like garlic,cider vinegar etc and how much would you put in. No i always fast the birds of food for 24 hours with garlic in the water and plenty of minerals/grit etc. Then first two feeds with buttermilk in water at 1 part to 3 parts ratio. Three days on that then back to garlic for 2 days, and then repeat. BTW birds not exercised during this period. Can also do every other day or put buttermilk on the corn.
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 why do pigeon fanciers always want birds to moult quickly i only give linseed twice week with there feed about 1 table spoon and the birds moult well every year let the birds moult dont force the course of nature why why why ????????????????????????????????
Guest mick bowler Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 why do pigeon fanciers always want birds to moult quickly i only give linseed twice week with there feed about 1 table spoon and the birds moult well every year let the birds moult dont force the course of nature why why why ???????????????????????????????? Why? Two reasons, firstly if on darkness they have had there moult artifically held up so its a way of getting them back in sync. Secondly its not the best to have birds moulting in cold and/or damp conditions. I have birds bred in May that look like yearlings apart from the flights and a few tail feathers, thats their last streesful bit done with before the bad weather comes in.
kev43 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 took the very words out my mouth mick,,, and also am doin my alterations now aswell so i dnt hav 2 do them in the winter and that means birds can rest more aswell with no1 at the loft stressin them out more over the winter mths
Chris Little Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 I want my birds to moult slowly
paul10121968 Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 why do pigeon fanciers always want birds to moult quickly i only give linseed twice week with there feed about 1 table spoon and the birds moult well every year let the birds moult dont force the course of nature why why why ???????????????????????????????? i agree,seasons over for some,just let the birds rest and go through it at their own speed.they have earned it.
terry mccarthy Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 a good seed diet sedocol in water poultry spice on food
Taylorsloft Posted September 6, 2009 Report Posted September 6, 2009 Have noticed a lot of fanciers on here mention Buttermilk to put in the water,will this mix with other things like garlic,cider vinegar etc and how much would you put in. buttermilk i mix with the corn leave for 20 mins then feed
PIGEON_MAN Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 buttermilk i mix with the corn leave for 20 mins then feed How much would you put on say 1kg of corn,and where is the best place to get it from.
maverick Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 good food clean water and rest bath once a week
Guest Taylors Choice Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 It's the sulphur in products that helps push the feathers out. New corn contains sulphur for about 3 weeks after it is harvested and after this period it has dissolved into the air and is no longer readily available for the pigeons, so we have to add a supplement to the corn with contains sulphur such as Carr' Turbo Boost or Klaus Easy Moult etc...
pigeonpete Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 It's the sulphur in products that helps push the feathers out. New corn contains sulphur for about 3 weeks after it is harvested and after this period it has dissolved into the air and is no longer readily available for the pigeons, so we have to add a supplement to the corn with contains sulphur such as Carr' Turbo Boost or Klaus Easy Moult etc... you been googling again?? ;D
Guest Taylors Choice Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 ;D ;D No, just general banter Peter
ch pied Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 It's the sulphur in products that helps push the feathers out. New corn contains sulphur for about 3 weeks after it is harvested and after this period it has dissolved into the air and is no longer readily available for the pigeons, so we have to add a supplement to the corn with contains sulphur such as Carr' Turbo Boost or Klaus Easy Moult etc...your correct , new wheat & barley contain a high count of sulpher , a good supplement during the first week or two of the big moult is a little flower's of sulpher on the feed 1/4 teaspoon - 1kg of feed , just to get the blood heated up .
chickadee Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 ;D ;D No, just general banter Peter Again it seems like only some can banter, sad :-/
pigeonpete Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 Again it seems like only some can banter, sad :-/ No problems with banter carol, just split it for you to a different topic, as once you posted that lovely picture i knew it would go totally off topic. here is link :-) http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1252308494/
REDCHEQHEN Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 the nearest shop to me thats sells buttermilk is 15 miles away - I'll do without.......(shrug)
phillips Posted September 7, 2009 Report Posted September 7, 2009 its not really down to a moulting mix with the price of corn nowadays its hard enough to even be worring and thinking about personally ill be mixing my own corn for the moulting season 50% beans new as i feel new beans are better than 2yr old beans 30 % wheat 15 % rape seed 5 % linseed all mixed together feeding the birds as much as they want in a trough also malasas in the water as this is a good form of calcium they will also get vita pro in the water and as many baths as they want this is only me though hope this helps jason
wilkins Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 i moult mine on 1 part each of barley, wheat,chicken pellets ,1 part beans, to every 8 1 litre jugs of this i add 1 cup of rape seed 1 linseed, this mix works out at £6.50 a bag and the birds moult very well on it , i add no oils to it at all. propell one day a week vita combo 2 days a week (which as most no is very cheap) horse mollasses one day a week and one other thing i do is one day a week for just 2 hours a mixture of epsom salts and sodium bicarbonate 1 teaspoon of each to 6 pints i also put a large spinach leaf in my shed every other day(loads in the garden) mine look lovely i dont no longer think pigeons need a high protein diet to moult on or oils put on the food i was worried at first but i now wish i fed this mix for moulting years ago
wilkins Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 funny jason i never read your post before i posted ,but we are not far out on what we use other than you use higher amount of beans than me
chickadee Posted September 8, 2009 Report Posted September 8, 2009 No problems with banter carol, just split it for you to a different topic, as once you posted that lovely picture i knew it would go totally off topic. here is link :-) http://forum.pigeonbasics.com/m-1252308494/ Thanks, I was going to post pics of me going through the moult as well, maybe next time
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