Dod Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 Hi im new to the sport and have only stock birds at the moment i have injected them for pmv and gave them a pill for canker and worms is there anything else i should do before i start breeding? Any advise would be very greatfull to keep my birds in good health thanks.
pidge 1 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 hi m8 treat them for paratyphoid as well 10 days (parastop) such like
Roland Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 What should I treat your stockbirds for? :-/ Indeed, depends whats up with them - if anything! ... if not broken you cant fix
rembrant2coo Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 What should I treat your stockbirds for? :-/ Indeed, depends whats up with them - if anything! ... if not broken you cant fix correct roly , you have gave them enough as itis , at this time of the year i,ve garlic in the water 24 /7 andthat does everything I need
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 Hi im new to the sport and have only stock birds at the moment i have injected them for pmv and gave them a pill for canker and worms is there anything else i should do before i start breeding? Any advise would be very greatfull to keep my birds in good health thanks. Good food, clean water, a dry loft with good airflow, Should be all that is required. Treating blind, can have adverse effects on your birds, and damage their natural immune system
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 i agree why treat stock birds ? id only worm and canker a bird if it was new but my stock birds havent been treated for any thing for years only thing mine will get is some wheatgerm oil on the corn a week before i pair
greenlands Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 Both my race team and stock birds look the best the have looked for sometime,they have had cider vinegar 2/3 times a week or ropidair ,now and then flowers of sulphur on their feed other than that tap water.I can't see any reason to treat them their droppings are good etc.They will get treated for canker when sitting eggs. Lindsay.
PIGEON_MAN Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 move with times or stay behind What you saying pidge1 we should treat blind.
Guest strapper Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 i would treat for paratyhoid. have droppings checked and treat accordinly. illnesses can appear this time of year and dont listen to myths that they dont. one thing i would suggest...get all the usual medications in now before the season gets underway...3-4 days of guessing whats wrong then sending for the meds could mean the birds have succumb to the illness and died. natural products can help deter illneses starting but they wont cure them. stock birds need treating as well as race. a pigeon is a pigeon wether he,s an athlete or just a run of the mill pigeon...deseases kill all! a pigeons worst enemy is man!...we all think we know all about them but one little thing happens and it shows how little we do know about them.
pidge 1 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 Thats moving with times strapper, well said
showman Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 move with times or stay behind What !! (?)
blackdog Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 my stock birds were given baytril for ten days before being put together, they never looked as if they ailed from anything, great droppings looked great but i just wanted to make sure, all 7 pair were sitting eggs at 11 days, prevention is better than cure j m o
Guest strapper Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 my stock birds were given baytril for ten days before being put together, they never looked as if they ailed from anything, great droppings looked great but i just wanted to make sure, all 7 pair were sitting eggs at 11 days, prevention is better than cure j m o prevention usually costs less then the cure too!
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 So do you take 2 Paracetamol every day, just in case you MIGHT get a headache :-/
Guest strapper Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 So do you take 2 Paracetamol every day, just in case you MIGHT get a headache :-/ do you not have a spare tyre in the boot just in case you get a flat? i think there is need for prevention in some cases but treating blind for everything is a no no.
Guest lenwadebob Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 do you not have a spare tyre in the boot just in case you get a flat? i think there is need for prevention in some cases but treating blind for everything is a no no. Not got a boot on my push bike Paul ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But I agree blind treatment is a no no
showman Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 do you not have a spare tyre in the boot just in case you get a flat? I think your analogy is a whole lot off track...nothing to do with medication !!!!
Silverdale Lofts Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 have droppings checked and treat accordinly. natural products can help deter illneses starting but they wont cure them. Lot of people wont agree but thats the best statement written on this forum for a long time.
kirky Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 I only inject for PMV and thats it, if anything falls ill it is removed full stop.
Guest strapper Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 I think your analogy is a whole lot off track...nothing to do with medication !!!! i wait to hear your advice and wisdom? if prevention is not advisable ...then why do the biggest scientists in the world advise us to have preventative swine flu AND normal flu shots! why do they also advice women to have the cervical cancer jab? also have the tb jab? dogs have regular injections...preventative. preventative jabs before we go abroad! there are many reasons why we give to prevent...some not so popular.
pigeonscout Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 i wait to hear your advice and wisdom? if prevention is not advisable ...then why do the biggest scientists in the world advise us to have preventative swine flu AND normal flu shots! why do they also advice women to have the cervical cancer jab? also have the tb jab? dogs have regular injections...preventative. preventative jabs before we go abroad! there are many reasons why we give to prevent...some not so popular. You forgot the simple asprin that prevents 100s of things.
Guest scoobybob Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 You forgot the simple asprin that prevents 100s of things. Something I have to take every day along with half a doz other tablets... ??)
Guest strapper Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 You forgot the simple asprin that prevents 100s of things. yes to treat pre heart attack.
Guest Owen Posted December 13, 2009 Report Posted December 13, 2009 do not treat your birds for anything they have not got. Some use things like Baytril but it is definately wrong to do that. As Len said have the birds checked and treat for what they have and leave it at that. Most of the medications have side effects and will drag your birds down. And never, never underdose for anything because you will build up the immunity of the bad bugs and they will be resistant to medications when they are needed some time in the future. The one really important thing you do need to do, is make sure they get minerals fresh every day. Don't do as some do, leave the grit and minerals in the loft to gather dirt and dust. Change it every day. Animals and birds can not utilise the vitamines in their diet unless they have the correct minerals in their system. I think you may find that winning pigeon races can be surprisingly easy when the birds are fit and well. But equally, you will find that winning pigeon races with overmedicated unfit birds is impossible. Health wise you must aim to have the birds deep down fit, not propped up with medication. It simply does not work.
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