Stock birds with wet droppings

[robbiedoo.]

i must have every thing wrong i would think the last thing you would want to do when the droppings are loose isgive them stuff to make them drink more i would give a little origo stim in the water maybe some electrolites or garlic but i think sometime they get a bit excited on the 1st nest of the season JMO

 

i would give them some pick stone it soon stiffens them up

[kingbilly2]

 

i would give them some pick stone it soon stiffens them up

 

so is that 2 pick stones ;D ;D ;D ;D

[DUBLINFLYER]

frank question? wot do ye think that orego will do to stop the birds squirting... the reason i ask is i never used it but am open minded if it works

[tjloft]

What about the youngsters? is their nest pan dry?

[kingbilly2]

 

Yes they where ok before feeding theyoung

 

get some strike you can give it to them when there feiding young birds will dry up in 2 days if the young birds are fine dont worry about it ;)

[pigeonscout]

How good is the food your feeding?

[ch pied]

How good is the food your feeding?

good point

 

 

[aye ready]

always feed clay blocks when their rearing young grit/minerals/calcium all in these blocks and the birds go daft for them,used to use them cheap pink pickstones years ago but got problems with the birds scouring,tasted them myself and they were laden with salt not good imo if you want to supply salt get a cattle salt lick and put it on your landing board for the birds if and when required

[THE FIFER]

some birds do drink a lot of water when rearing youngsters,

[dwh]

some birds do drink a lot of water when rearing youngsters,

 

we had three pairs early on  wet boxes but dryed up now

[Guest lenwadebob]

What are your youngsters droppings like? If they are reasonably firm and their crops are full of food and not full of water, leave well alone. If the babies droppings are wet and really loose and crops full of water, then take drinkers away for 2 hours after parents have been fed, then replace it. You will find that they wont drink so much. A lot of pigeons are lazy feeders and take the easy option when feeding youngsters, water instead of food, it's the easy option for them, especially in the colder weather.

[wilkins]

 

All they have been getting is matrix twice a week at the most is this not enough

 

i think matrix is not the best thing while breeding as birds will over eat on it , but twice a week is not enough grit for them get a couple of bags of grit a give them fresh dailey use matrix after breeding

[alex young]

Hi Wings,put some electrolytes in the water,make sure they have mineral blocks and plenty of grit , see how it goes from there.

Lindsay

Sound advice, sometimes when feeding on change from soft food to hard corn the droppings go watery a good electrolyte sould sort it.atb.

 

[sammy]

its a salt imbalance and they need electrolites any kind will do ,its not a disease its a condition and as soon as young birds are seperated the droppings are normal , try diaoralyte from chemist for a few days one sachet to a gallon of water  

[mark proctor]

What are your youngsters droppings like? If they are reasonably firm and their crops are full of food and not full of water, leave well alone. If the babies droppings are wet and really loose and crops full of water, then take drinkers away for 2 hours after parents have been fed, then replace it. You will find that they wont drink so much. A lot of pigeons are lazy feeders and take the easy option when feeding youngsters, water instead of food, it's the easy option for them, especially in the colder weather.

 

spot on lenwadebob,,over the years alot of mine have been wet feeders until i tried the above taking the water out,,,the thing is alot of fanciers leave corn in front of them so all they do is pick a few little bits out and then take the easy way out and drink and pump loads of water making the babies squirt,,,now i feed alot of maples in my mix so theres not alot of little pieces in and i never leave it in front of them,,i stand and observe them,,i no its hard for the lads that work long hours to do this thou,,,all the best,,mark.....

[pigeonscout]

A spoon full of vinegar in the water stops them drinking to much and just like Mark I also feed a lot of maples.

[mark proctor]

A spoon full of vinegar in the water stops them drinking to much and just like Mark I also feed a lot of maples.

 

i didnt think of that m8,,thanks.... ;) ;) ;) we are all still learning doesnt matter how long weve had pigeons does it...

[wings]

Thanks everyone i added Orego styme to the water gave them grit and every other day they get a small amount of Matrix with a little black minerals added and also put live yoghurt nad strike 2 on the corn and now everything is fine many thanks again.

[Guest frank dooman]

 

i would give them some pick stone it soon stiffens them up

 

gravy granules doesnt stop but it defo thickens it ;D ;D ;D

[Guest frank dooman]

frank question? wot do ye think that orego will do to stop the birds squirting... the reason i ask is i never used it but am open minded if it works

 

it defently stops the runs the makers say it does this and that i dont know if it does or not but one thing it defo does is firm up the droppings the thing that causes most prob with any living thing is lose of the fluids so any thing that can stop/help that is good in my book the lose of fluids is the 1st thing to worry about then give eloctrites that was from the best avain vet in scotland Tom Pennycott its the 1st thing to do with Y/B/S he told me

[Guest Owen]

I reckon you have been lucky this time. Asking people to try to guess what could be wrong with you birds is really risking adding to the problem. If it had turned out that your birds had a serious illness the time you were wasting in the guessing game would have made matters much worse. I hope that you have found the problem and the solution to it.

As others have told you, pigeons need fresh grit and minerals in front of them every day. When I say clean, I do not mean dusty stuff that is a week or more old.  And in spite of what some might tell you, they need clean drinking water all the time. It is very cruel to deprive pigeons of liquid. If they drink a lot it is because they need it and sometimes they have a raging thirst because they are ill.

Can I suggest that you locate a Vet or someone who can run droppings tests for you. These days it is important that you are able to have your droppings tested regularly. It is the only way that you can accurately pinpoint problems before real damage is done.

[pigeonscout]

Birds do not need clean drinking water all the time, fanciers will put electrolytes, vinegar, tea, garlic, etc and theses things are good for them not bad. You can also get lazy stock birds pumping the young full of water and its not because they need that amount.  Just feel the crop of the young birds with the wet droppings after they have been fed to see if it is full of corn or full of water. A lot of the time you will find the young birds with the wet droppings are getting pumped full of water.

[Guest rodders]

had this problem a few years ago asked a good fl yer about prob and he said when breeding always have a pot of table salt in loft when young in nest i know it sounds backwards salt will make them drink more but it doesn't if its in front of them all the time they just take wot they need and it does stop wet dropping especially around the bowls

[Guest]

had this problem a few years ago asked a good fl yer about prob and he said when breeding always have a pot of table salt in loft when young in nest i know it sounds backwards salt will make them drink more but it doesn't if its in front of them all the time they just take wot they need and it does stop wet dropping especially around the bowls

 

read this on another site when my feeders had wet droppings 2 weeks ago, it worked a treat,

[fredholbard]

It's definitely a lack of salt, put a salt lick from a horse shop in with the breeders, the droppings will firm up in two days

 

regards

 

fred