Shu

[walterboswell59]

Magic ðŸ‘ðŸ»ðŸ‘ðŸ»

yes lets hope its Ypres and a gold cup race we can get plenty of inland races from the fed

[budgie]

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The RPRA have not contacted the Scottish government they are dealing with Westminster and this is a fact

!!Unbelievable!!after all the efforts to get racing moving!!

[walterboswell59]

PERFECTLY IN LINE WITH SNFC PLANS FOR TWO RACES, NOW WE NEED TO FIRM UP RACE POINTS AND TIMING, SO HOPEFULY THE SNFC PRESIDENT WILL BE ON OUR CASE SOON.

great news john lets hope we can get at least two channel races

[budgie]

As previously posted we all have to follow the rules "from a level of personal and professional integrity".Its not the SHU it’s the Government The important thing is we stick to the rules to get us through into the next critical 2nd phase and we follow the rules to the best of our abilities.Why put our elders at risk for a !!is it not safer to train them yourself them jump them .Its nothing to do with furlough or grants if it was ,we would be racing .If we get a 2nd Spike it will be devastating and I believe for the economy the 2nd phase will be lifted within 2 weeks.I am as keen as everyone for racing to commence and it will but surely not to the detriment of our families.

Time and Patience

Take Care

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Andy, have you seen or read any statement from Ian Evans, RPRA CEO that has come directly from the Scottish Government That can be verified or validated. Is the name of the person/minister that he has spoken with concerning the racing of pigeons in Scotland actual known, or has this all yet again been word of mouth.

 

No I Have not. I have spoken directly with Ian Evans and he told me he had spoken to someone in Scottish Government. All he has ever received is a referral to the Scottish Government routemap out of lockdown. Similarly when he was speaking to Westminster, just referrals to the guidelines. Ireland have a fancier who is a member of the Government. Wales has been extremely difficult to receive any information.

The RPRA have looked at the guidelines with a view to servicing their Members and interpreted the relevant guidelines. They have then issued their own guidelines on how to meet the arrangements required. Part of their guidelines were that Conveying organisations had to check Government and RPRA guidelines to ensure they could meet the relevant standards. These conveying organisations then inform their Clubs whether they re going to operate. The Clubs then decide if they can meet the arrangements and inform their Members. Every individual Member has different requirements and must decide for themselves whether they are able to meet the arrangements.

Simply put, every individual is responsible for their own safety.

 

I have posted this before and I have personally informed Gordon Turnbull that was the position. Gordon then decided to allow training under similar provisos. Thereafter he issued a series of statements retracting from his position. It is only today that he has announced similar to his original decision and apparently after a meeting with RPRA officials. Why he could not have accepted the word of one of his Council members and checked with the RPRA before his original decision, if he did not check at that time, I do not know.

 

Absolutely nothing has changed since his original announcement, to my knowledge.

[tommy bhoys]

As previously posted we all have to follow the rules "from a level of personal and professional integrity".Its not the SHU it’s the Government The important thing is we stick to the rules to get us through into the next critical 2nd phase and we follow the rules to the best of our abilities.Why put our elders at risk for a !!is it not safer to train them yourself them jump them .Its nothing to do with furlough or grants if it was ,we would be racing .If we get a 2nd Spike it will be devastating and I believe for the economy the 2nd phase will be lifted within 2 weeks.I am as keen as everyone for racing to commence and it will but surely not to the detriment of our families.

Time and Patience

Take Care

andy you can fling sheet tae the moon nae rules in place so we are racing this week

[tommy bhoys]

Andy, have you seen or read any statement from Ian Evans, RPRA CEO that has come directly from the Scottish Government That can be verified or validated. Is the name of the person/minister that he has spoken with concerning the racing of pigeons in Scotland actual known, or has this all yet again been word of mouth.

just glad lanarkshire has 7 delegates now times are changing nae mare of this crap fae the top table never seen any new statements from any msp or wee jimmy so this is a fact that the top table of the shu have been stopping its members from training and racing shame on them its time tae step down

[budgie]

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andy you can fling sheet tae the moon nae rules in place so we are racing this week

 

It's time we had a statement out from our Federation President and a race programme

[doomaloon]

As previously posted we all have to follow the rules "from a level of personal and professional integrity".Its not the SHU it’s the Government The important thing is we stick to the rules to get us through into the next critical 2nd phase and we follow the rules to the best of our abilities.Why put our elders at risk for a !!is it not safer to train them yourself them jump them .Its nothing to do with furlough or grants if it was ,we would be racing .If we get a 2nd Spike it will be devastating and I believe for the economy the 2nd phase will be lifted within 2 weeks.I am as keen as everyone for racing to commence and it will but surely not to the detriment of our families.

Time and Patience

Take Care

well said

[tommy bhoys]

It's time we had a statement out from our Federation President and a race programme

you wont get yin so ask your sec who gets its sites are all booked

[tommy bhoys]

It's time we had a statement out from our Federation President and a race programme

so you telling me your club wont need a pick up then andy ???

[bigjamie]

all went well with the dunbar trainer good returns we will have to get the ball rolling tommys right its nearly the middle of june lets get the birds moving

[tommy bhoys]

It's time we had a statement out from our Federation President and a race programme

check the up tae date web page of lanarkshire fed instead of looking at pigeon basics

[bibendium]

Ayrshire racing this weekend

[tommy bhoys]

Ayrshire racing this weekend

well done

[tommy bhoys]

all went well with the dunbar trainer good returns we will have to get the ball rolling tommys right its nearly the middle of june lets get the birds moving

race points booked jamie its all go now baskets all back tae clubs that needed them ready for hexham

[Bobby4]

race points booked jamie its all go now baskets all back tae clubs that needed them ready for hexham

Great news tommy weldone

[Johnleg]

DO THE MEMBERS NOT THINK ITS TIME TO SIT BACK AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND REFLECT ON WHAT WE ARE ALL DOING TO EACH OTHER AS SO CALLED PIGEON FANCIERS, WE ARE ALL LOOKING THROUGH THE SAME EYE GLASS, AND WE ARE PUTTING OUR OWN INTERPRETATION ON WHAT WE SEE, I DONT BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE THERE IS A SINGLE PIGEON FANCIER IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOES WANT TO RACE HIS OR HER PIGEONS, OR IS TRYING TO PREVENT ANYONE ELSE FROM DOING SO, AND THAT INCLUDES THE OFFICIALS OF THE SHU, AND BY THE WAY THE SHU DO NOT TELL ANYONE THAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT SEND THEIR PIGEONS FOR TRAINING OR RACING, THEY ONLY GIVE ADVICE ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT RULES ARE AT THE TIME.

WE ARE LIVING IN UNPRESEDENTED TIMES,AND THE ONLY WAY OUR SPORT IS GOING TO SURVIVE IS IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE PROBLEMS TOGETHER, AND REFRAIN FROM ASKING OFFICIALS, WHO DONT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, TO STEP DOWN, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ON AN UNPAID JOB, JUST TO BE CHASTISED AND BAD MOUTHED, WHEN THEY THINK THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST THING TO DO AT THE TIME, WE ARE GETTING BACK TO THE OLD SAYING

"LET HIM, WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE" I DONT THINK THERE WILL BE MANY STONES THROWN. WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN AGENDA, AND WE DO THINGS ACCORDING TO WHAT IS BEST FOR US, I CAN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BEING A BIT CAREFUL IN HOW THEY INTERFACE WITH OTHERS, AND TRY TO KEEP THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY SAFE, PERSONALLY I HAVE BEEN TO ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES IN THE CLUB LATELY, BASKET CLEANING, BASKETING FOR TRAINING, ETC,ETC, AND I OFTEN THINK ABOUT, WHAT IF I CATCH THE VIRUS AND TAKE IT BACK TO MY FAMILY, GOD FORBID. SO GIVE OTHERS SOME CONSIDERATION, WHEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE THESE DIFFICULT CHOICES.

I NOW BELIVE WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALBEIT SLOWER IN SOME AREAS THAN OTHERS, BUT THE GOOD THING IS, WE HAVE CHOICES AVAILABLE TO US, TO EITHER TRAIN OR RACE OUR BIRDS, AND WHAT EVER CHOICE YOU MAKE, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT [APART FROM THE LAW OF THE LAND] TO QUESTION THAT CHOICE.

SO HERES HOPING ITS ONWARDS AND UPWARDS IN THE WEEKS AHEAD.

[tommy bhoys]

DO THE MEMBERS NOT THINK ITS TIME TO SIT BACK AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND REFLECT ON WHAT WE ARE ALL DOING TO EACH OTHER AS SO CALLED PIGEON FANCIERS, WE ARE ALL LOOKING THROUGH THE SAME EYE GLASS, AND WE ARE PUTTING OUR OWN INTERPRETATION ON WHAT WE SEE, I DONT BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE THERE IS A SINGLE PIGEON FANCIER IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOES WANT TO RACE HIS OR HER PIGEONS, OR IS TRYING TO PREVENT ANYONE ELSE FROM DOING SO, AND THAT INCLUDES THE OFFICIALS OF THE SHU, AND BY THE WAY THE SHU DO NOT TELL ANYONE THAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT SEND THEIR PIGEONS FOR TRAINING OR RACING, THEY ONLY GIVE ADVICE ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT RULES ARE AT THE TIME.

WE ARE LIVING IN UNPRESEDENTED TIMES,AND THE ONLY WAY OUR SPORT IS GOING TO SURVIVE IS IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE PROBLEMS TOGETHER, AND REFRAIN FROM ASKING OFFICIALS, WHO DONT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, TO STEP DOWN, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ON AN UNPAID JOB, JUST TO BE CHASTISED AND BAD MOUTHED, WHEN THEY THINK THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST THING TO DO AT THE TIME, WE ARE GETTING BACK TO THE OLD SAYING

"LET HIM, WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE" I DONT THINK THERE WILL BE MANY STONES THROWN. WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN AGENDA, AND WE DO THINGS ACCORDING TO WHAT IS BEST FOR US, I CAN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BEING A BIT CAREFUL IN HOW THEY INTERFACE WITH OTHERS, AND TRY TO KEEP THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY SAFE, PERSONALLY I HAVE BEEN TO ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES IN THE CLUB LATELY, BASKET CLEANING, BASKETING FOR TRAINING, ETC,ETC, AND I OFTEN THINK ABOUT, WHAT IF I CATCH THE VIRUS AND TAKE IT BACK TO MY FAMILY, GOD FORBID. SO GIVE OTHERS SOME CONSIDERATION, WHEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE THESE DIFFICULT CHOICES.

I NOW BELIVE WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALBEIT SLOWER IN SOME AREAS THAN OTHERS, BUT THE GOOD THING IS, WE HAVE CHOICES AVAILABLE TO US, TO EITHER TRAIN OR RACE OUR BIRDS, AND WHAT EVER CHOICE YOU MAKE, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT [APART FROM THE LAW OF THE LAND] TO QUESTION THAT CHOICE.

SO HERES HOPING ITS ONWARDS AND UPWARDS IN THE WEEKS AHEAD.

wake up john and smell the coffee its a fact that the shu have been stopping its members from training and racing its dug a hole and cant get out of it so its time the top table stands down

[Johnleg]

WELL AS I SAID ITS A MATTER OF PERSONAL INTRPRETATION.

[tommy bhoys]

WELL AS I SAID ITS A MATTER OF PERSONAL INTRPRETATION.

its a fact john

[mill house]

DO THE MEMBERS NOT THINK ITS TIME TO SIT BACK AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND REFLECT ON WHAT WE ARE ALL DOING TO EACH OTHER AS SO CALLED PIGEON FANCIERS, WE ARE ALL LOOKING THROUGH THE SAME EYE GLASS, AND WE ARE PUTTING OUR OWN INTERPRETATION ON WHAT WE SEE, I DONT BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE THERE IS A SINGLE PIGEON FANCIER IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOES WANT TO RACE HIS OR HER PIGEONS, OR IS TRYING TO PREVENT ANYONE ELSE FROM DOING SO, AND THAT INCLUDES THE OFFICIALS OF THE SHU, AND BY THE WAY THE SHU DO NOT TELL ANYONE THAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT SEND THEIR PIGEONS FOR TRAINING OR RACING, THEY ONLY GIVE ADVICE ON WHAT THE GOVERNMENT RULES ARE AT THE TIME.

WE ARE LIVING IN UNPRESEDENTED TIMES,AND THE ONLY WAY OUR SPORT IS GOING TO SURVIVE IS IF WE CAN WORK THROUGH THESE PROBLEMS TOGETHER, AND REFRAIN FROM ASKING OFFICIALS, WHO DONT ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, TO STEP DOWN, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO TAKE ON AN UNPAID JOB, JUST TO BE CHASTISED AND BAD MOUTHED, WHEN THEY THINK THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST THING TO DO AT THE TIME, WE ARE GETTING BACK TO THE OLD SAYING

"LET HIM, WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE" I DONT THINK THERE WILL BE MANY STONES THROWN. WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN AGENDA, AND WE DO THINGS ACCORDING TO WHAT IS BEST FOR US, I CAN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE BEING A BIT CAREFUL IN HOW THEY INTERFACE WITH OTHERS, AND TRY TO KEEP THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY SAFE, PERSONALLY I HAVE BEEN TO ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES IN THE CLUB LATELY, BASKET CLEANING, BASKETING FOR TRAINING, ETC,ETC, AND I OFTEN THINK ABOUT, WHAT IF I CATCH THE VIRUS AND TAKE IT BACK TO MY FAMILY, GOD FORBID. SO GIVE OTHERS SOME CONSIDERATION, WHEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE THESE DIFFICULT CHOICES.

I NOW BELIVE WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALBEIT SLOWER IN SOME AREAS THAN OTHERS, BUT THE GOOD THING IS, WE HAVE CHOICES AVAILABLE TO US, TO EITHER TRAIN OR RACE OUR BIRDS, AND WHAT EVER CHOICE YOU MAKE, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT [APART FROM THE LAW OF THE LAND] TO QUESTION THAT CHOICE.

SO HERES HOPING ITS ONWARDS AND UPWARDS IN THE WEEKS AHEAD.

Yea ken you should get a job in Westminster

[budgie]

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you wont get yin so ask your sec who gets its sites are all booked

 

Thanks for your response on another note what rules are we racing under RPRA or SHU ?

[tommy bhoys]

Thanks for your response on another note what rules are we racing under RPRA or SHU ?

the scottish west coast unions rules

[budgie]

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the scottish west coast unions rules

 

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