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You should not compare the fitness of birds and animals to the fitness of humans. If we where to lay in bed for 6 months without moving we would waste away. Yet some animals go into hibernation for months and at the end come out with the same level of fitness as when the first went in. I am not saying pigeons are like that but pigeons can reach race fitness within a couple of weeks of the first race. There are to many fanciers who lock their birds up all winter and then come out and win the first races to say locking them up does them harm.

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All you will be doing is feeding hawks and there is no need for the birds to be out in the winter.

No problem A P

Whitenight I spent an hour reading a lot of your posted (up to page 9) to see if I could find out a bit more about you . What I found out from reading your post is that you know enough about this sport to write a book. Your helpful give the right advice and I have no doubts now you are a great pigeon fancier with great pigeons whatever your name is. :) :)

So then can you tell me the name you raced under. PS I have only ever raced the Mike Ganus System.

I have yet to hear of anyone having to get other kinds of birds out of their garden from budgies and chickens to birds of prey it seems this law is only enforced on pigeon fanciers. Are pigeons fanciers the only ones not allowed to keep their pets in the garden?

whitenight can i ask what name you race under.

Well said mick.

Henry got his 10 hartogs at Roger lowe's Clearance Sale in 1998 and crossed them with his own family of birds.

Roger lowe had a Clearance Sale in 1998 Hartogs,

Thats nice to hear Tommy well done. Pm me the details of the birds that bred them for you.

You have my number?

Mick you got it wrong again Ha Ha.

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Call him back and tell him you will bring it to a vet to have it dispose off and you will get the vet to send him the bill.

They will need trained in the year of birth, young birds bred very late will be on the darkness system because the days will be short. when fanciers breed at Xmas time and put the young on the dark the young birds are about 7 months old going to the first race. Some fanciers are now breeding a late round 7 months before the first old bird race Sep /Oct and the late breds are going to the first old birds race having gone through the body molt but still have full wing. If trained well they are every bit as fast as the old birds. PS stop them after 5 or 6 races.

You should do ok with east wind

would go out the back of loft at top and not the roof then point pipe down so it is water tight

If he lets them out and they go into another fancier and the other fancier reports the bird who has to pay to have it picked up?

Why would there be a need to time a bird twice?

John I know about the pigeonchat one loft race I was 3rd in that race and as far as I know im the only man that got paid and that was only because I had someone call to his house for the money. I am not saying this guy is not owed £150 form john boyd I am saying that it is bull sh** to say no one was paid out by John last year.

I think there was over £25K paid out last year and this is the first person I have heard saying that they did not get paid out. Saying no one was paid out last year is rubbish. Most of the names that were in the race last year are back this year do you think they would be back if thay had not been paid?

There was some more posted today with no name you should have them by Thurs. 3 sets on string and 3 single.