some household names in belgium seem more interested in selling than racing--it is good when you go on loft visits and as you say see a loft just like yours nothing fancy but you can research the club results and see how he has done. to take a loft in question--STICKERS DONKERS==try and buy birds from his loft and if you can get something befor 2015 you will be lucky,yet when you look at an advert in the homing world november 5th i think couple of years ago,it started,FASTEST PIGEONS IN BELGIUM. YET THE BASE COCK WAS OFF FRANS AND DIRK MARIS OF ITERGEM. they fly a small back garden setup. so do your research and take you pick,these guys fly sprint all year . thx for info about teinverbond.